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Term limits not answer

January 4, 2014

Recently, a hot-bed of debate has been occurring across the country with regard to Term Limits....

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JohnZook

Jan-05-14 10:04 PM

Agreed USA, no after term benefits and no involvement with the political process (lobbyists and the like) for life. See: pipe dream.

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Waggybaggits

Jan-05-14 1:54 PM

Term limits would stop crony-ism and "you pat my back - I pat your back" practices a great deal. This was not intended to be a government that speaks for the lobbyists only or large corporations that are re-electing officials because of what they are getting in return. This government was set up for the people - we don't even have compromise and delegates truly representing the common people anymore.

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Waggybaggits

Jan-05-14 1:50 PM

Term limits would stop crony-ism and "you pat my back - I pat your back" practices a great deal. This was not intended to be a government that speaks for the lobbyists only or large corporations that are re-electing officials because of what they are getting in return. This government was set up for the people - we don't even have compromise and delegates truly representing the common people anymore.

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USABorn

Jan-05-14 5:44 AM

I am FOR term limits. However, I would take it a step further.

Both the House and the Senate terms should be for 4 years, with a 2-term limit! (Too much time spent running for office when you have a 2 year term!!!!) If 8 years is enough for the most important job in the world (U.S. president), it should be enough for them.

AND, there should be NO benefits after leaving office......zip, zilch, nada!

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AnnoyingKidFromLoyalsock

Jan-04-14 11:09 PM

My letter does not address the Presidential Term Limits because voters from every state and district participate in the election of that office. We are all constituents of the President; We are not all constituents of Doc Hastings.

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farmer

Jan-04-14 5:50 PM

Just curious Eric, which Conservative legislator holding office today is pushing term limits?

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eriklatranyi

Jan-04-14 5:18 PM

Mr. Reeder, once again, proves he is a liberal liar of the first degree, creating his lies because he has no defense of the lifetime elected criminals who populate his party.

Instead, conservatives have some ideas, like term limits, to eliminate the lifetime elected criminals in both parties, yet Mr. Reeder needs to assault the idea with childish comments.

Infantile thinking on display!

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CMReeder

Jan-04-14 5:12 PM

Erik want his officials to be stupid. You do tells us what we should think all the time.

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enigma

Jan-04-14 4:40 PM

"That is because enigma wants to tell us what to think and Erik wants his elected officials stupid."-Chuck

Wrong again Chuck! I tell you why I think the way I do. You don't have to agree. You have the right to be wrong. Erik doesn't want elected officials to be stupid, he wants them to understand that they don't know everything and that they don't need to make all of our decisions for us. If you are so stupid that you need that, hire someone to do it for you and leave the rest of us alone.

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CMReeder

Jan-04-14 3:51 PM

I find it amusing that many here complain about the low information voters and then want their representatives not all that smart and to rely on the intelligence of those who voted for them. They think so little of the voters that they want to impose term limits on our representatives.

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CMReeder

Jan-04-14 3:41 PM

That is because enigma wants to tell us what to think and Erik wants his elected officials stupid.

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enigma

Jan-04-14 12:01 PM

"Actually enigma, he said he has no right to tell us who to elect, and vice versa." Ritty77

That's not exactly correct. He said we should not want term limits (telling us what to think) and that we should not tell him who to elect (voting normally requires thinking). He is therefore, in a very real way, telling us what to think, while demanding that we not tell him what to think. It's well camouflaged, but that is the driving force behind this letter.

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enigma

Jan-04-14 11:52 AM

"This sounds an awful lot like you want to "change" the constitution. Makes me wonder about you Enigma." - farmer

What did you think this letter was about? It's about changing the Constitution. It's been done over 20 times. Some of the changes I like, some I don't, but it has been changed and it will be changed again. I am not saying I want to change it, but I would not be opposed to this change. I would much rather see the government obey what we already have and then we wouldn't need another change, but there are not signs that they will do that. One of the ways to limit their power is to remove the possibility of making elected office a lifelong career. If they knew that they would have to live under the laws they passed, they would be more careful about what those laws were.

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farmer

Jan-04-14 11:03 AM

"Actually enigma, he said he has no right to tell us who to elect, and vice versa." Ritty77.

Please don't mess with Enigma's reality, he'll just start calling us "stupid" again.

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Ritty77

Jan-04-14 10:56 AM

Actually enigma, he said he has no right to tell us who to elect, and vice versa.

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enigma

Jan-04-14 10:51 AM

The definition of hypocrisy: Some guy in Washington State telling us how to think, but stating that we have no business telling him how to think.

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enigma

Jan-04-14 10:47 AM

Shulski, What are you talking about. Do you know what term limits are? They don't shorten the term, the limit the number of terms. This would actually tend to make politicians to work more for us and less time campaigning and raising money for said campaign. You don't know what term limits are, but you expect us to believe that you are some expert in Greek and Roman government. Maybe you can tell us about John Locke, who formulated the idea of natural rights, which is the foundation of our Constitution. Fake intellectuals like you make me sick.

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mikekerstetter

Jan-04-14 10:24 AM

eriklatranyi-"Electing women and men of integrity is the key"

Unfortunately with the declining morals so goes integrity.

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mikekerstetter

Jan-04-14 10:21 AM

Ritty77-"For a good counter point, see YouTube:"

Oh no, they've gotten to you.......

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Capricorn1

Jan-04-14 10:16 AM

I want someone who acknowledges they do not know more than the people! -Erik

One of the most valuable lessons that I learned during the many years of leading Marines, is that some of your best ideas and initiatives come from those junior to you. Listening to those you lead is one of the most important lessons in leadership. That is one of the biggest problems in Congress today, they forgot to listen to those that put them in office and the people they work for. That's not leadership. That's dictatorship.

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Capricorn1

Jan-04-14 10:09 AM

Shaman, both sides of the aisle have their rich powerful people contributing their money for political influence. Campaigns from the president on down rely on these people and these lobbyists. If you think that one side has the market cornered on this, then you are very misinformed.

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Shulski

Jan-04-14 9:47 AM

Yeah, Erik, and there are no Ivy League educated Republicans. Bush never went to Harvard or Yale.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-04-14 9:39 AM

Mr. Reeder asked:

"So you want someone who knows less than you do."

Yes!

I want someone who acknowledges they do not know more than the people!

That is the secret of true leadership....knowing you don't know it all.

But liberals look at ivy league educations and family backgrounds (Kennedy) as valuable in a leader.

Those things mean very little.

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farmer

Jan-04-14 9:31 AM

Capricorn1, I'm not convinced term limits are the answer although they may well be. But I do agree with your description of the problem, voter turnout, not our guy, exc.. We do need to start thinking outside the box. We also need to drop this "if you don't think the way I do your stupid" attitude. We are all Americans.

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MrShaman

Jan-04-14 9:30 AM

Shaman, you were doing ok until you referenced Maddow. She's as much of a radical as Limbaugh." - Capricorn1

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Ah, yes, because...after all...it's "different", when it's the Koch Brothers having "too much influence in politics".

No one will ever have the opportunity to blame you for consistency...THAT'S for sure!!

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