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Wage madness

January 5, 2014

It has been in the news a lot lately of the protests to raise the minimum wage, and the reasoning behind the protest is always centered around getting paid more for the same unskilled job....

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spike2

Jan-06-14 7:01 PM

bobbie- Weiners texts

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Netwarrior

Jan-06-14 5:36 PM

The only reason dems are making this an issue right now is because they are trying to divert everyones attention away from obamacare by changing the subject. They are relying on the greedy nature of the masses, their inherent laziness, and ultimately their own stupidity in order to continue lining their own pockets by getting re-elected. Make no mistake about it, they dont care for the masses.

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Netwarrior

Jan-06-14 5:33 PM

MrShaman "Suppose nothing. The President is promoting $10.10/hr.

Those increased-wages will be spent, LOCALLY...rather-than be squirreled-away in some offshore-account.

It really matters, to you, WHO'S spending the money that supports our local-economy???? "

No doubt obama wants a higher wage. What that translates into is more tax revenue for the federal government, which then translates more to take from the guy that earns to give to the guys that dont want to earn or simply can't. All that while destroying small business in the process and thus throwing more people into long term unemployment. Minimum wage jobs were never meant to be career moves. They are merely entry level jobs for people to use as a stepping stone onto better paying jobs. Sooner or later, there wont be any jobs to work and these liberal peices of garbage will have only themselves to blame. With so many not wanting to work these days to begin with, this is a bad, bad move for us to be going in

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spike2

Jan-06-14 11:14 AM

Born - good stuff. Was great before 2007/2008 crash. We unloaded a good amount at the beginning of the crash but balance is rebounding nicely. Wonder how many years before a split?

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Steelman

Jan-06-14 11:03 AM

Learn a trade. Be willing to work for less while learning that trade. Get better and move up. Be a value to the employer and you will be rewarded for it. Vinceknauff

If you really want to make it in life, there are always opportunities if you work hard and apply yourself towards your goals. Capricorn1

Are you kidding me this would require people to put forth effort, when it is easier to sit back collect and complain

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Steelman

Jan-06-14 11:02 AM

How about instead of raising minimum wage lower the taxing on the minimum wage. May keep this in balance rather than raising the minimum and the employee still loosing a large potion to the Gov. that is allegedly helping them. This would benefit the employee and the local business owner, who can not afford to pay a higher rate for employment.

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johnnyad3

Jan-06-14 9:32 AM

"The increased cost will force businesses to cut jobs"

Maybe for some but it has never been proven that a rise in minimum wage leads to a rise in unemployment. Unemployment usually hinges on what's going on in the economy as a whole, for example, the Great Recession.

People spending make up 67% of our economy and people making minimum wage are a substantial portion. The theory is a rising tide raises all boats. If people are making more, they will spend more, especially those at the bottom. Maybe they can raise the thermostat up a degree or two.

My problem with the way things are done is they are grandiose. If minimum wage is 7.25, there is no way it will increase to 15.

I believe it should be raised to 8 or 9 and then tie it to a COLA.

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cheyenne

Jan-05-14 10:21 PM

Reading through the comments on this letter I could not find a single sensible explanation of how a proposed minimum wage hike would be beneficial to anybody. It seems to me that raising this wage will never achieve the goal of it being a so-called "livable wage". The increased cost will force businesses to cut jobs and raise the price of their products to maintain their profit margin. Therefore, not only would there be fewer jobs available, the new wage still would not be "livable", and many others who previously did make a fairly comfortable living would now find themselves also struggling. If someone has a sensible explanation on how this would be beneficial I would like to hear it.

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Millwe

Jan-05-14 8:28 PM

All I'm saying is current minimum wage cannot support a person let alone a family (yes, there are single people struggling to support themselves and/or children). Try looking for a job in Williamsport or surrounding areas that offers a "fair wage". With local rents skyrocketing and no decent paying jobs it looks like the mayor is getting his wish....only those with money will be here and the rest of us fools, with any luck, will go where there is hope!!!

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BornHere

Jan-05-14 6:11 PM

Me too spike just bought some more in December at a good price.

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spike2

Jan-05-14 5:52 PM

Bobbie - Textron aka Avco Lycoming if you are that interested.

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Fredzz

Jan-05-14 5:05 PM

erik;

How many, if any of the nearly 100 million citizens not working are under the age of 18, retired and/or multy millionaires

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eriklatranyi

Jan-05-14 4:10 PM

When we have nearly 100 million citizens not working...talk of raising the minimum wage is stupidity in display.

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rmiller

Jan-05-14 3:53 PM

Keith,

"US corporate taxes are the highest in the world and employers are burdened with dealing with numerous government mandates and an indecipherable tax code.

Any manufacturer could be considered prudent for fleeing such an environment."

Sort of sums this discussion up, maybe?

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rmiller

Jan-05-14 3:49 PM

Good letter, Keith

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Fredzz

Jan-05-14 3:26 PM

Mike;

"" it's silly and puts kids into unnecessary debt by employers demanding a college education for the majority of the jobs out there. ""

I agree..

But Its part of the Corp. Welfare program.

Subsidized Employee wages tied too hiring those with higher education

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Fredzz

Jan-05-14 3:04 PM

If all of those manufacturing jobs went overseas, what’s going on in all of those factories we see?

Robotics..!

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mikekerstetter

Jan-05-14 2:41 PM

CMReeder-"("Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for.") That means employers see employees as worthless."

Not even close. That means that employers don't feel they are getting their money's worth paying $15/hour for someone to wipe a table and take out the trash at a restaurant that's selling $3 burgers (or a buck on the dollar menu).

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mikekerstetter

Jan-05-14 2:37 PM

underwood-"If all of those manufacturing jobs went overseas, what’s going on in all of those factories we see?"

Phil, to be honest, I see a lot of gas drilling/support companies occupying a lot of closed up factories, or, in the case of my area, Moran industries are buying them up using them for warehousing/logistics operations.

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mikekerstetter

Jan-05-14 2:32 PM

JohnZook-"Screw college and learn a trade. Get in an apprenticeship program and forget about an ever more useless college education."

Don't know how I missed this earlier. Some of you make fun, but it's solid advice. How many out of work plumbers, electricians, HVAC tech's, mechanics, etc. do you know? I've said this a long time; I think it's silly and puts kids into unnecessary debt by employers demanding a college education for the majority of the jobs out there. Learn a useful trade or of you do go to college go for something that has a demand in your course of study.

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CMReeder

Jan-05-14 2:29 PM

"Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for."

That means employers see employees as worthless.

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MrShaman

Jan-05-14 2:24 PM

"To all you readers of high school age:

Screw college and learn a trade. Get in an apprenticeship program and forget about an ever more useless college education." - JohnZook

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Gee...you meany ANYONE could be as "wise", "creative" & "satisfied" (with their Life), as you??!!!

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MrShaman

Jan-05-14 2:20 PM

Spike, The reason that there are not more of the "up the ladder" jobs is because they have been taxed and regulated out of existence. Technically, they still exist.." - enigma

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You spend a lot o' personal-time totally-confused, don't you?

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MrShaman

Jan-05-14 2:16 PM

"The minimum wage issue is a distraction, started by liberals, to change the subject away from the absolute failure of Obamacare." - eriklatranyi

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Stand-down, Lil' Rikki.

The "minimum wage issue" is decades old. You don't get to make this one-more T-Bagger issue.

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johnnyad3

Jan-05-14 2:04 PM

"The minimum wage is intended to be a starting point for unskilled workers"

Wrong

The Minimum Wage Act was enacted in 1938 and states: "The act states that wages must ensure a minimum standard of living necessary for health, efficiency and general well-being, without substantially curtailing employment. It also bans child labor."

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