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The American worker?

January 14, 2014

Congress sends billions of American workers tax dollars to Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and not support extending unemployment benefits? I know it’s the American workers fault, big unions, same......

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SilverFeather

Jan-17-14 4:09 PM

Great letter Frank Kelly, we definitely DO earn our UC benefits! The only people who do not earn their unemployment benefits are the wealthy and well, we can see by the posts who they are! Enima, if you think Obama is to blame, I have a congressman for you who really cares about whether or not you can afford your flood insurance! LOL That's who you blame pal!

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nobud74

Jan-14-14 6:02 PM

You do not earn unemployment compensation. As an employee your contribution rate is .07%. This equates to $7 per 10K. If you make 50K per year, you contribute $35. At that wage you working 30 years you would have contributed just over a thousand dollars. You cannot say that is earning anything. Your employer contributes anywhere from about 2.8% to almost 11%. That is where the bulk of the money comes from.

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Capricorn1

Jan-14-14 5:08 PM

"I've got a pen, and I've got a phone. And I can use that pen to sign executive orders and take executive actions ... and I've got a phone that allows me to convene Americans from every walk of life." -President Obama Jan 14 2014

No worries.. it looks like Obama is going to solve all our problems by himself. God help us.

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underwood

Jan-14-14 4:18 PM

I believe if we’d quit trying to solve the world’s problems and concentrate upon making the USA a shining example of what freedom and liberty can do, we’ll do a lot more to convince others that that’s the way for people to enjoy prosperity just like we do.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-14-14 3:53 PM

farmer:

No, poverty is not solved.

But the point was to show that a dedication to capitalism and individual liberty is the pathway to solving the problem worldwide.

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farmer

Jan-14-14 2:48 PM

Mr. Underwood, of course I understand how a govt., good or bad contributes to poverty or prosperity of it's people, and I know it's not possible for the tax payers of this country to solve all the worlds problems. Nor should they be asked to. If I have strayed from the subject I apologize. My intention was only to point out how misleading Eric's comment was. To believe Eric's sources, you would be led to believe that the poverty level has dropped 80%, and at only 5.6% the problem has just about been licked. At that level we should just put world poverty out of our minds. As I'm sure you have noticed, poverty is still on my mind. That's poverty around the world, or my back yard. We can't do it all,but as the greatest country in the world I believe we should take the lead in finding a solution, not sticking our heads in the sand and ignoring the facts. Eric would have us ignore those facts.

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hopeforfuture

Jan-14-14 1:45 PM

We continue to compare the poor in America to those is third world countries.

How is it my fault that people in other countries have so many poor people? I get so tired of some rich person telling me that I have to give to this organization or that one so that the poor can be helped. Sorry we may live in America but our cost of living is also much higher and so different than in those countries. It is usually the leaders of those countries at fault for the mass poverty and mass starvation. How can I STOP a foreign dictator? Especially when we have a dictator wannabe right here.

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enigma

Jan-14-14 1:44 PM

We are in agreement, just out of curiosity, what corporate "welfare" gets under your skin?-Scott

All of it! The government has no business giving money away to anyone. My taxes are supposed to be used to run the government, not to buy votes for politicians. The tax system is not supposed to be used as a system to coerce behavior or to pay back political allies. I am opposed to all of it. If a company can't survive on it's own, then it shouldn't survive. If a person can't survive on their own, they need to find some generous person or group of people (private) to help them. That's how a free nation works.

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underwood

Jan-14-14 1:21 PM

Farmer, you seem unwilling to consider how different kinds of governments contribute to the poverty level of their citizens. To consider world poverty without considering its causes is meaningless.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-14-14 1:04 PM

Obama continued: ”And I can use that pen to sign executive orders and take executive actions and administrative actions that move the ball forward in helping to make sure our kids are getting the best education possible, making sure that our businesses are getting the kind of support and help they need to grow and advance, to make sure that people are getting the skills that they need to get those jobs that our businesses are creating.”

I guess Bush was a tyrant for his Executive Orders, but Obama is doing it for the right reasons.

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farmer

Jan-14-14 12:13 PM

eriklatranyi: "Perhaps if those still living in poverty did not have socialist governments, they could join the growing ranks of the working class."

Your probably right. I think I'll write to them today and tell them to stop having a socialist govt.. It's gonna' be a happy day, full bellies for everyone. Thank you Eric for you wise advice.

I see it stopped raining, so I'd better head out to the barn. Have a great rest of your day.

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Capricorn1

Jan-14-14 12:10 PM

IMHO, just a small fraction of what is spent on "WAR" could go a long way in correcting this. JMO-Scott

I agree. Congo, Zimbabwe, Eritrea and Ethiopia are four of the most poverty stricken countries in the world as a result of years of war.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-14-14 11:52 AM

farmer:

You gloss over the fact that millions have been lifted out of poverty by focusing on those that are still there.

Perhaps if those still living in poverty did not have socialist governments, they could join the growing ranks of the working class.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-14-14 11:50 AM

Scott36 asked:

"We are in agreement, just out of curiosity, what corporate "welfare" gets under your skin?-Scott "

Subordinated loans to solar companies is just a good start.

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Scott36

Jan-14-14 11:38 AM

Theft is theft and it doesn't stop being theft just because you get the government to do it for you.-enigma

We are in agreement, just out of curiosity, what corporate "welfare" gets under your skin?-Scott

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Scott36

Jan-14-14 11:34 AM

Poverty comparisons are meaningless unless the type of government the people are living under is factored in.-Underwood

What type of government is it better to live in poverty? 22,000 dead each day?--IMHO, just a small fraction of what is spent on "WAR" could go a long way in correcting this. JMO-Scott

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enigma

Jan-14-14 11:33 AM

"Between the flood insurance and unemployment letters, there have been an awful lot of people saying "give me". - gavinf56

"No doubt. You never hear such demands, at the federal-level." - Sham

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't both the flood insurance and extended unemployment at the federal level? Yes they are, but you don't have to be smart to be a troll do you Sham?

The point Sham wanted to make was that corporations want government money too. SO WHAT!!! Is theft by an individual somehow better than theft by a group? The correct answer to that question is NO. Theft is theft and it doesn't stop being theft just because you get the government to do it for you.

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Capricorn1

Jan-14-14 11:00 AM

If you want a more accurate picture of the unemployment rate, you need to look at the U-6 rate which is currently 12.7%.

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underwood

Jan-14-14 10:31 AM

Poverty comparisons are meaningless unless the type of government the people are living under is factored in.

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farmer

Jan-14-14 10:26 AM

continued: but I do hate people using bogus charts or data to gloss over real world problems so they can feel comfy in their own little minds. $2.50 a day. And please don't tell me how well they live on that in Africa!! Tell it to the 22,000 dead kids. (oh yea, that's per day)

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farmer

Jan-14-14 10:20 AM

ericlatranyi; "University of Michigan-Flint economist Mark Perry has a chart showing the remarkable decrease in the world poverty rate, which has fallen 80 percent, from 26.8 percent in 1970 to 5.4 percent in 2006."

Yes I looked up this chart or as it's author calls it the “chart of the century” because it illustrates one of the most remarkable achievements in human history" Very impressive, until you actually read it. Mr Perry's remarkable claim of 80% drop in poverty is based on the definition of poverty as "living on $1 per day. Now for my data I will quote from Global Issues 2012 (though several other sources have similar results): Total Percentage of World Population that lives on less than $2.50 a day 50%,or 3 Billion people,Number of children in the world 2.2 billion'Number of Children that live in Poverty 1 billion,Total Number of children that die each day due to Poverty, 22,000. That is "die" as in DEAD!! I don't hate free trade or capitalism

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underwood

Jan-14-14 10:19 AM

I wonder what would happen if the givers in our society decided to stop giving and became takers. If collectivism continues we’ll reach a point where contributing no longer has benefits since the more one contributes, the more will be taken and given to the ones contributing less. There is a reverse incentive inherent in collectivism. To back this up, simply take a look at the history of collectivist societies.

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CMReeder

Jan-14-14 9:57 AM

The right just piles on the poor and unemployed. They can not stop being mean and cruel.

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JohnZook

Jan-14-14 9:41 AM

Instead of complaining about unemployment compensation, I don't hear many complaining about how our "social program" President hasn't, in the last five years, allowed any meaningful job creation.... unless you mean the fake numbers before the 2012 election. And how about HIS EPA? All the new regulations they DICTATE don't really enhance job creation. 93 MILLION people out of work and everyone(?) believes the jobless rate is 6.7%.... there are a lot of Liberal mind-numbed-robots out there....

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JohnZook

Jan-14-14 9:32 AM

Frank, did you ever ask for or receive a raise? Did that give you more money, without doing anything extra to earn it, therefor more "profit"? These evil people who spend all their time and money to start a business and then hire other people to work for them; why would anyone expect them to be rewarded for enterprise? I guess they should ask their employees how much money THEY are allowed to keep. Yes, komrade, profit is an evil capitalistic word....

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