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January 15, 2014

News items and discussions about heroin problems usually focus on dealing with addiction and consequences of use....

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Capricorn1

Jan-15-14 4:34 AM

Phil, I believe allowing years of unchecked addiction to prescribed opiate pain killers was a contributing factor to the her oin problem we see today. Once doctors and law enforcement did recognize the abuse and started cracking down on the availability, her oin became the drug of choice because of the similar high, price and availability. As for why people choose to abuse drugs, probably for the same reasons people abuse alcohol which could be a whole range of issues, most being psychological.

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Tgrammiex4

Jan-15-14 5:33 AM

Speaking from personal experience, back in the day,(70's)alot of kids tried the whole pot thing. A few went on to "other" drugs, but for the most part, life went on. You had to grow up, become a responsible adult, which didn't include drugs. The next generation, I have noticed, didn't leave the drugs behind upon becoming adults.They have gone on to have kids, which are teens now, that have grown up around drug use all thier lives . More and more parents are exposing thier kids to drug use.It's not just coming from peer pressure anymore.The whole mentality about drug use has changed.It's become acceptable.Look at Colorado & Washington JMO

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jan-15-14 6:03 AM

"The issue should be why so many people begin to use ****** when addiction and consequences are well known."

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Maybe because it feels so good. Possibly brought on by trying other less addictive substances at first.

Some feel they are invincible and can drop it when they want to but they they don't realize the craving of their body can overpower the logic of their mind!!

Their parents didn't give them a pet when they were little?? They feel no one else loves and cares about them so what!!

A variety of reasons......

Maybe someone could start some local research with those that get arrested. Ask those that are recovering.

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MrShaman

Jan-15-14 6:13 AM

"The issue should be why so many people begin to use ****** when addiction and consequences are well known.

No one held beginning users down and forcibly injected their first dose." - Phil Underwood

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Absolutely!!! It's not-as-if "we" haven't gotten the straight-story (right from the start), REGARDING any-and-all drugs!!!

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See:

True History of Marijuana Full Movie - YouTube

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MrShaman

Jan-15-14 6:31 AM

"Phil, I believe allowing years of unchecked addiction to prescribed opiate pain killers was a contributing factor to the her oin problem we see today. Once doctors and law enforcement did recognize the abuse and started cracking down on the availability, her oin became the drug of choice because of the similar high, price and availability." - Capricorn1

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That could easily be ONE factor...but, I don't recall all the 'Nam-vets (who'd become addicted, overseas) starting-out on prescribed-opiates.

NO one, starting-out, PLANS on becoming addicted...to whatever. With all that's been known, about H, someone's gotta be hurting (pretty badly), to get started in the first-place...and, I'm not talking about prescription-drug withdrawl.

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sideliner

Jan-15-14 6:39 AM

Addiction is a disease, Phil. That simple.

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MrShaman

Jan-15-14 6:40 AM

"More and more parents are exposing thier kids to drug use. It's not just coming from peer pressure anymore." - Tgrammiex4

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'Tis true!! If you've got so much liquor (in the house) you don't recognize there's any missing...or, you PROVIDE alcohol (for underaged-parties)...you're definitely part of the problem.

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MrShaman

Jan-15-14 6:45 AM

"Their parents didn't give them a pet when they were little?? They feel no one else loves and cares about them so what!!" - ToTEXASfromPA

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Yeah...how unfortunate more (of them) don't have someone as "compassionate", as you, looking-out for their best interests.

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Steelman

Jan-15-14 7:06 AM

I agree that there is a lot more exposure to drugs through the parents now a days, but there can also be benefits (as weird as it may sound) Growing up my parents were alcoholics and had drug issues. I saw this everyday and said to myself I will never live like this, and I have chosen not to. However you have to make that choice no one can make it for you.

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nobud74

Jan-15-14 7:44 AM

Addiction is a choice. You choose to use. You can choose to quit. By saying it is a disease we give excuses and a way out for those who choose not to quit.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-15-14 7:48 AM

The human race has serious mental health issues that are being ignored.

Mental health problems are involved in everything from unemployment to education to marriages to school shootings.

We do not teach people how to deal with their thoughts and emotions in a healthy manner, so many turn to substances that mute those thoughts and emotions or create new ones.

This nation should lead by having a real discussion about mental health.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-15-14 7:49 AM

Phil:

One minor point:

There is a number of people (human trafficking) that actually have been held down and injected with hero-in to create the addiction.

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Steelman

Jan-15-14 8:07 AM

Why is it all of the sudden why have to coach people how to live their lives? This is what they call the sisification of America. We do not have to many mental health issues we have to many excuses for people’s poor actions.

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MrShaman

Jan-15-14 8:24 AM

"Why is it all of the sudden why have to coach people how to live their lives? This is what they call the sisification of America." - Steelman

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It's also called parenting.

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MrShaman

Jan-15-14 8:27 AM

"Addiction is a choice. You choose to use. You can choose to quit. By saying it is a disease we give excuses and a way out for those who choose not to quit." - nobud74

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...Like those folks who insist they're "big boned".

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MrShaman

Jan-15-14 8:30 AM

"I agree that there is a lot more exposure to drugs through the parents now a days..." - Steelman

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...Not-to-mention "the marketplace"! After all, it wasn't parents who'd given us "H e r o i n Chic"...nearly 10-years-ago.

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Capricorn1

Jan-15-14 8:36 AM

That could easily be ONE factor...but, I don't recall all the 'Nam-vets (who'd become addicted, overseas) starting-out on prescribed-opiates. -Shaman

"Addiction rehab organization Narconon warns parents that a ****** epidemic may be coming to their backyards soon, as ****** replaces prescription opiates for many addicts.

For a decade, organizations like the US National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) have been issuing reports on the growth in prescription drug abuse. Since the 1990s, they report, prescription drug abuse has grown by leaps and bounds, with opioids leading the way. When all the figures were received on 2007 deaths from drugs, it was discovered that prescription drug deaths had quadrupled between 1999 and 2007 and in fact, exceeded the number of deaths from ****** and cocaine combined." -narconon dot org

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hopeforfuture

Jan-15-14 8:38 AM

This nation should lead by having a real discussion about mental health.-eriklatranyi

There was a time in history when people who had mental problems where put into homes where they would not hurt others. Laws change. Now a person with a mental health issue has to agree to go to the mental health facilities. If they do not want to go it is almost impossible to get them help BEFORE they hurt someone.

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Steelman

Jan-15-14 8:38 AM

Parenting now there is a novel idea. Who wants to do that anymore. It is much easier to just let the kids do what they want, and let them be somone elses burden. I know let blame it on the school teachers.

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SteelerFan

Jan-15-14 8:39 AM

Addiction may be a disease, but it's self-inflicted.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-15-14 8:40 AM

Steelman asked:

"Why is it all of the sudden why have to coach people how to live their lives?"

As life becomes easier, people have more idle time.

Years ago, your day was spent trying to survive, so you did not have time to contemplate your "feelings".

Substance abuse increases with standard of living.

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SteelerFan

Jan-15-14 8:44 AM

Shammy's post of Jan-15-14 6:40 AM showed one barely clear coherent moment, but all the other posts are his usual babble. I'm surprised he hasn't made this a race issue. Go ahead Shammy, prove me wrong.

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enigma

Jan-15-14 8:50 AM

"Addiction is a disease, Phil. That simple." - sideliner

No, it's not that simple. It may be a disease, but it is almost always self inflicted. In addition, most addicts today are more psychologically addicted than physically addicted. They are not mentally equipped to deal with life so they escape through drugs. That's exactly what Phil was talking about. No one wants to address the root cause. Making the excuse that addiction is a disease and leaving it at that is a cop-out, and is entirely unhelpful and may even be harmful. What Phil was saying is that it would be better to prevent the disease than to treat it. Doesn't that make sense?

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CMReeder

Jan-15-14 9:07 AM

Like your posts Capricorn1 and agree with them.

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MrShaman

Jan-15-14 9:11 AM

"Parenting now there is a novel idea." - Steelman

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Not really. Parents have been "coaching" their children "how to live their lives", for several years, now.

It's really not that novel a concept.

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