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January 19, 2014

I went to the local UPS store to ship a piece of clothing to a friend in Texas; and to my surprise I had to show identification to send a shirt to Texas. Really? I had to show I.D....

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JohnZook

Jan-19-14 10:11 PM

Yep, lets find a Liberal judge and have him rule that voter I D is what? Unconstitutional. When you mix ideology and the law, you get what we deserve....lawlessness.

See: Eric Holder and the Obama Scandals.

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rmiller

Jan-19-14 7:18 PM

"Judges are seeing it as an "unreasonable burden" on the right to vote.-Scott "

Scott, let me thro this at the equation. It is cold sometimes in November for many parts of the country, really cold. I, along with may suffer from arthritis and find it a "burden" to stand in the cold to vote. unlike those who must register, but who get to pick the day they do (and most likely will pcik a nice day) we msut suffer through bitter cold. Perhaps the govt. needs to accomadate us, and those with even more sever disabilities and expand the polling places with places that permit inside waiting to vote? In 2008, I stood for two hours in the bitter cold, and it was cold that night. But, the desire to vote outweighed the 'burden of the cold."

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rmiller

Jan-19-14 7:12 PM

"Why do we 'need' voter ID laws?"

Back at ya, then you must also hold to no ID for anything, right? I'm just using your logic. Picking and choosing what is morally relevant gets to be slippery slope.

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rmiller

Jan-19-14 7:10 PM

Sounds do-able to me, Gregory.

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thecaringkind

Jan-19-14 6:18 PM

Answer a simple question for me. Why do we 'need' voter ID laws? Do such laws constitute an unnecessary burden and if so why?

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eriklatranyi

Jan-19-14 4:06 PM

Scott36 said:

"This seems to be becoming a settled argument."

Typical liberal tactic. A low-level judge rules in their favor and they quickly call it "settled law".

Meanwhile, the US Supreme Court has ruled voter ID is fine.

But, liberals, like Scott, which to claim it is "settled law" before it is settled.

What a bunch of charlatans!

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eriklatranyi

Jan-19-14 4:03 PM

thecaringkind said:

"Statistically, crunching the hard numbers, election fraud, especially for President simply does not exist."

OK, let's take this logically.

First, we do not check ID currently.

Therefore, if someone commits voter fraud, by voting as another person, how do you catch it?

So, do you think it is possible that the cases of Voter ID fraud are so low because we don't check ID?

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Scott36

Jan-19-14 4:02 PM

This seems to be becoming a settled argument. In yesterdays SG for example, the article "Judge spikes photo ID requirement". Judges are seeing it as an "unreasonable burden" on the right to vote.-Scott

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underwood

Jan-19-14 4:00 PM

There’s no such thing as a fundamental right to vote. There are already requirements, such as citizenship,registration and age that limits who can vote. Why not add proof of identity.

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mikekerstetter

Jan-19-14 2:59 PM

thecaringkind-"It unnecessarily disenfranchises elderly and youth voters, many of whom do not have acceptable forms of ID."

Who are these people? My son needed a photo ID to get a drug test before he was hired for a job... he's 16. My Mom, who's in her late 70's and has never driven nor voted needed to go get a photo ID for the Dr's office. I just don't buy that crap that it disenfranchises someone.

And another thing, who out there, if they can't take the time to get a photo ID, will actually take the time to vote? I'm just not buying it.

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thecaringkind

Jan-19-14 11:56 AM

eriklatranyi I appreciate your comment however I don't believe liberals are fabricating anything in this case. Statistically, crunching the hard numbers, election fraud, especially for President simply does not exist. Anything put in place that could hamper registered voters from their constitutional right to cast their vote is simply unacceptable in a democracy. The voter ID laws put into effect in mostly Red states and some blue are nothing more than a solution in search of a problem.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-19-14 11:35 AM

So, none of the elderly ever had a driver's license?

None of the elderly have a social security card?

None of the elderly have a Medicare card?

Once again, liberals are fabricating fear and hysteria where it does not exist.

Liberals do this because they do not have logical, fact-based arguments on their side.

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SilverFeather

Jan-19-14 11:15 AM

"Illegals, felons, underage, registered in more than one area, etc" CarlHiller You forgot the illegal, felonious and underaged ELDERLY population! Our elderly population are the ones truly being hurt by this. As I recall, when I registered to vote I was given a VOTER ID CARD which I was told to bring with me when I went to vote. I was never asked for that card because we live in a teenie weenie little borough and we all know each other. But I still have that card. Why is that card not enough? How many illegals do we have living here? And let me tell you something else, if we did have even ONE illegal alien living in my little borough, they'd be harassed incessantly by our local po-po, so don't you worry about that!

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thecaringkind

Jan-19-14 11:10 AM

It unnecessarily disenfranchises elderly and youth voters, many of whom do not have acceptable forms of ID. The idea of showing ID to vote is not bad on its face however by making it a requirement it hinders many people from exercising their right as citizens. The idea that ID laws prevent fraud is misleading because the rate of voter fraud in this country is so minuscule it statistically does not exist.

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Ritty77

Jan-19-14 10:05 AM

"Judge in PA rules that the Voter ID law in PA is unconstitutional."

Yes, and I believe the next stop is the PA supreme court. I guess then it would go federal. Not sure how that works. Does it need to go through federal district courts or might it go directly to SCOTUS, who has already ruled Voter ID constitutional?

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CMReeder

Jan-19-14 9:57 AM

Judge in PA rules that the Voter ID law in PA is unconstitutional.

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rick424

Jan-19-14 9:26 AM

This issue is pretty much dead, at least for another 10 years. I do enjoy the comments though so hopefully it will come up from time to time.

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VinceKnauff

Jan-19-14 8:54 AM

We still have not seen a Liberal point to a person and show that that person there will not be able to vote if the ID law stands.

Like I said a few weeks ago here - have the government fine people who do not obtain a valid photo ID the same way they will fine people who do not obtain Obama-approved health coverage.

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CarlHiller

Jan-19-14 7:51 AM

"I'm still trying to figure out who all of these disenfranchised voters are that will make the effort to get to the polling place and vote but can't possibly go get a photo ID." Illegals, felons, underage, registered in more than one area, etc. Many of these you will find already have and ID - it's required for so many different things in our lives today, that to say presenting or getting one "disenfranchises" is total BS.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-19-14 6:49 AM

The fact remains that in those states where Voter ID has been implemented for more than one election cycle, voter turnout increased.

Disenfranchisement is simply another, in a long line, of liberal lies.

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mikekerstetter

Jan-19-14 5:15 AM

I'm still trying to figure out who all of these disenfranchised voters are that will make the effort to get to the polling place and vote but can't possibly go get a photo ID. And who doesn't have a photo ID? I get asked for an ID at the Doctors office, to cash a check, to use my credit card (for those places who still do their job and make sure you're using your own credit card).

True story, when I first moved over here and went to vote I was not once asked for any ID. These people didn't know me from Adam. When I voted in Clinton Twp and Montgomery I was never asked for ID either, but I was born and raised there and everyone knew our extended family.

I just don't see the problem with people showing their ID to vote.

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