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Disgusted

January 20, 2014

Your article "Retired deputy warden is no fan of President Obama" leaves me shaking my head in disgust....

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sideliner

Jan-20-14 5:26 AM

How refreshing to see the SG print a letter that speaks positively on the ACA.

The authors of this letter and the next make perfect sense.

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Capricorn1

Jan-20-14 5:49 AM

Just one problem sideliner, the uninsured are not signing up, nor are the young and healthy that the program relies on to keep premiums affordable. The majority that have signed up previously had health insurance

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Premier

Jan-20-14 5:51 AM

Every time someone in Washington "rolls up their sleeves" I get this strange sensation in my right hip pocket.

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Premier

Jan-20-14 6:18 AM

And the one thing Neil left out is all these other Countries don't have the vast amounts of entitlement programs we have here.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-20-14 6:22 AM

Cap:

You are correct. The young and healthy are not signing up.

But, the beauty of government is that those people will sign up or be punished with the full force of the IRS.

They will have no choice or will suffer the consequences of non-compliance!

Liberals despise the coercive power of big business, but they use the power of government in exactly the same way.

Liberal hypocrisy on display!!!

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mikekerstetter

Jan-20-14 6:24 AM

The ACA stinks. It does nothing to make health care affordable nor is it getting more people insured.

BUT, my personal opinion is that National Healthcare, or Single Payer, system would work. Every working person and every employer would pay a dedicated tax to fund the system. Set it up like an HMO with reasonable co-pays and/or deductibles and those that use the system more (like the elderly, obese, those who take risks, etc) would pay more into the system.

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idiottwo

Jan-20-14 6:25 AM

Neil, though I agree in part with some of your points, not every industrialized country provides its people healthcare near what we can access. Its still quite common that people from other nations come here when fighting cancers and other challenging needs. The wait times, intrusion on privacy and metered out approaches other nations have effect a determental impact on healthcare.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jan-20-14 6:29 AM

"If our people in Washington would roll up their sleeves and work together we could do it here too."

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So the Democrats controlled the House, Senate and Presidency and rammed though a bill using distortion, non-transparency, haste, special exemptions, and even coercion to their own members to pass it by thin margins and now after this piece of odiferous lobbyest-favoring legislation was passed, you say it is time to roll up sleeves and work together!!! Where was the bipartisanship before?

It sounds like someone that purposely stole someone's wallet/purse, beat and shot them. Then as they see them bleeding to death, they decide to call 911 using the victim's phone as they flee the scene.

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MrShaman

Jan-20-14 6:33 AM

"Just one problem sideliner, the uninsured are not signing up..." - Capricorn1

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...At least, as far as the "current-event"-challenged folks are concerned.

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See:

How Kentucky Built The Country's Best ACA Exchange

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MrShaman

Jan-20-14 6:42 AM

"And the one thing Neil left out is all these other Countries don't have the vast amounts of entitlement programs we have here." - Premier

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Lemme guess...this is another o' those "everybody knows"-factoids, right??

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See:

The Stockholm Syndrome Pt. 1 - The Daily Show

&

The Stockholm Syndrome Pt. 2 - The Daily Show

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MrShaman

Jan-20-14 6:46 AM

Cap:

You are correct. The young and healthy are not signing up." - eriklatranyi

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Gee...I can't imagine why not....

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See:

Fox's Dangerous Advice To Millennials: Opt Out Of Health Insurance Until You Get Into An Accident

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mikekerstetter

Jan-20-14 7:20 AM

MrShaman-"See: How Kentucky Built The Country's Best ACA Exchange"

Send that to Obama or his Administration. It's obvious they need the help.

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leaningright

Jan-20-14 7:22 AM

Whats "disgusting" is all of the reliance that people have on the gov't to provide something to them, thats what makes some "disgusted".

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VinceKnauff

Jan-20-14 7:47 AM

Fox's Dangerous Advice To Millennials: Opt Out Of Health Insurance Until You Get Into An Accident

Shammy - was that bad advice Fox gave? Tell us why. The way the Obamacare law is written shows that there is no reason to buy health insurance until you are sick. People can't be denied coverage for pre-existing conditions, and they can't be charged higher rates because of that pre-existing condition. So why would anyone buy coverage until they actually need it? The ACA law was intended to fail and drive us toward socialist health care, and that is simply another piece of evidence proving that was never meant to succeed.

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rick424

Jan-20-14 7:49 AM

Universal Heath care. It will be here...someday.

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leaningright

Jan-20-14 8:00 AM

The ACA is going to bankrupt and Obama is going to pay off the insurance companies, the writing is on the wall, read it.

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MrShaman

Jan-20-14 8:20 AM

"The ACA stinks. It does nothing to make health care affordable nor is it getting more people insured.

BUT, my personal opinion is that National Healthcare, or Single Payer, system would work. Every working person and every employer would pay a dedicated tax to fund the system." - mikekerstetter

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There's no sense in "reinventing the wheel", which was the reason for including the (already-existing) for-profit companies.

We already HAVE a National Healthcare/Single Payer system, in place. It's called Medicare.

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See:

Health Care In Canada [Wikipedia]

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underwood

Jan-20-14 8:22 AM

We have universal healthcare now, the debate is who’s going to pay for it. The ACA doesn’t provide healthcare, it attempts to provide a taxpayer assisted means of paying for everyone’s healthcare.

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MrShaman

Jan-20-14 8:24 AM

"Neil, though I agree in part with some of your points, not every industrialized country provides its people healthcare near what we can access." - idiottwo

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There are (quite) obviously numerous countries you still haven't visited.

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See:

Q&A: T.R. Reid - YouTube

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MrShaman

Jan-20-14 8:27 AM

"If our people in Washington would roll up their sleeves and work together we could do it here too."

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"So the Democrats controlled the House, Senate and Presidency and rammed though a bill using distortion, non-transparency, haste, special exemptions, and even coercion to their own members to pass it by thin margins and now after this piece of odiferous lobbyest-favoring legislation was passed, you say it is time to roll up sleeves and work together!!! Where was the bipartisanship before?" - ToTEXASfromPA

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You "big, bad" Texans surely-do do an awful lotta whining.

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MrShaman

Jan-20-14 8:31 AM

MrShaman-"See: How Kentucky Built The Country's Best ACA Exchange"

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"Send that to Obama or his Administration. It's obvious they need the help." - mikekerstetter

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You might want to "copy" the PA Governor, on this one. He had EVERY opportunity to develop/oversee a state-based exchange, but decided to be babysat (by the Federal Government), instead.

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MrShaman

Jan-20-14 8:35 AM

"Whats "disgusting" is all of the reliance that people have on the gov't to provide something to them, thats what makes some "disgusted"." - leaningright

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You should probably get mikekerstetter to "copy" you, with his email to the Governor, so the Governor knows there are TWO, of you, watching how he responds!!

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MrShaman

Jan-20-14 8:38 AM

Fox's Dangerous Advice To Millennials: Opt Out Of Health Insurance Until You Get Into An Accident

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"Shammy - was that bad advice Fox gave? Tell us why." - VinceKnauff

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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I never expected that kind of sarcasm!!! Well done!

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MrShaman

Jan-20-14 8:43 AM

"Universal Heath care. It will be here...someday." - rick424

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I believe the same.

We "merely" need to wait for "conservatives" to (FINALLY) get tired of their perpetual face-planting...trying everything-ELSE, first...before they come to their senses.

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Darlin

Jan-20-14 8:53 AM

The ACA is already failing at getting young healthy people to sign up and pay top dollar for things they don't want/need so that can pay for the older sicker Americans. The socialist ideology does not work and is being proven so far in this law. The government can't even get a website the is funnctional either and now we are going to entrust our precious healthcare to them. What a joke and when we get single payer system, the older nonworking individuals like Shammy, will get their ticket to meet the Grim Reaper in person from the death panels. Good-bye to the elderly.

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