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January 23, 2014

President Obama attempts to justify the so-called "Affordable Care Act" by frequently referring to the virtues of equality....

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thecaringkind

Jan-26-14 5:12 PM

The ACA came straight from the Republican/Conservative think thank Heritage Foundation. It was implemented in Massachusetts by Republican Governor Mitt Romney and is still in operation there today. The individual mandate came part and parcel from that Heritage Foundation plan. Me. Obama actually rejected single payor and a public option. He chose to placate the right and health insurance companies and yet he is vilified for the ACA. The plan was very poorly implemented and isn't perfect however it is a start and improvements can be made. The hyperbole spewing from the right and the tea party set is just that. They despise anything the current president is even remotely associated with UNLESS it benefits their corporate, military and Wall Street masters who continue to laugh themselves to the bank every day.

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Steelman

Jan-23-14 3:05 PM

Numbers

When President Bush took office in January, 2001 the unemployment rate was 4.2%. After the jolt of the September 11, 2001 attacks, the highest the unemployment rate rose was 6.3% in June, 2003. Then the economy calmed down and actually grew, dropping the unemployment rate to the mid 5% range, where it stayed for the next two years. In fact, the rate was 5.4% in November, 2004 when Bush was reelected. December, 2005 when the unemployment rate dipped to 4.9% and stayed in the 4% range straight through to November, 2007. December, 2007 it went to 5.0%, rose slowly and really shot up in August, 2008 to 6.1%. When the economy tanked, the rate blew right through the 6% range ending December, 2008 at 7.3%. January, 2009 when President Obama took office, the rate was 7.8%.

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MECURY2

Jan-23-14 1:55 PM

Steelman:Let's have some fun. If you were getting unemployment benefits and they "cut" them from you can you tell me where the "free supermarket"is located and where I can get a "rent free" apartment? One more question,what was the unemployment rate when Bill Clinton was in office, what was the unemployment rate when G.W. was in office and what the unemployment rate is now? Please don't run from REAL FACTS AND NUMBERS! These numbers involve REAL PEOPLE they're not just numbers.

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MrShaman

Jan-23-14 11:00 AM

"Wait a minute aren't drugs and prostitution legal? Or do certain communities turn a blind eye" - Garben78

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Only the most-civilized communities....

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See:

Amsterdam's Coffeeshops (Documentary 2009) - YouTube

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ScottyDogg

Jan-23-14 10:48 AM

"The right is consistent in their attacks on liberals. They hate the poor and middle class. They hate public education, safety, commerce and infrastructure...." - CMReeder on 1/21/14 @ 9:03 AM Comments under letter entitled Rewarded

We are still waiting for your explanation to back up this quote.

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MrShaman

Jan-23-14 10:38 AM

Erowid Cannabis Vault : Exposing Marijuana Myths

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MrShaman

Jan-23-14 10:37 AM

"Now it is all starting to come to gether....

"As has been well documented, I smoked pot as a kid, and I view it as a bad habit and a vice, not very different from the cigarettes that I smoked as a young person up through a big chunk of my adult life," Obama said during the interview. "

For marijuana, much of the concern is with young people who use the drug, because the drug interferes with the development of the brain while it is still maturing, Smoking marijuana interferes with connections being made in the brain "at a time when the brain should be at a clear state of mind, and accumulating, memory and data and good experiences that should be laying out the foundation for the future." - Steelman

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...At least, that's what "they say", right??

I guess you've forgotten (or, are too-young to remember) what OUR ex-Governor discovered...

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See:

Cannabis History - Richard Nixon And The Shafer Commisson - YouTube

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Erowid Cannabis Vault

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Steelman

Jan-23-14 10:36 AM

Republicans are introducing a series of proposals to help more Americans rise out of poverty: attaching or reinstating work requirements to safety-net programs, streamlining federal offices, improving training and education initiatives and offering tax breaks to the needy. Democrats are urging an extension of unemployment benefits (aka Throw money at them)

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eriklatranyi

Jan-23-14 10:35 AM

Rick:

Most conservatives would say the gov't should not be in the business of defining what is a marriage.

The gov't role with couples is a legal one that can be accommodated with a lawyer and a contract.

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MrShaman

Jan-23-14 10:18 AM

"President Obama has all ready learned from Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, and Jeremiah Wright so why would he want to read a book from Milton Friedman." - ToTEXASfromPA

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He's also learned from Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney & The Heritage Foundation.

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See:

How The Heritage Foundation, A Conservative Think Tank, Promoted the Individual Mandate - Forbes

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MrShaman

Jan-23-14 10:15 AM

"President Obama attempts to justify the so-called "Affordable Care Act" by frequently referring to the virtues of equality. In his mind, everyone that is being forced into the program, in order to provide a perceived "equal opportunity", trumps the personal freedom of individual's to select the healthcare they are comfortable with." - Marlin D. Lilley Jr.

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How many (more) tiers, of care, would satisfy you...10, 15, 20????

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See:

Health Insurance Marketplace [Wikipedia]

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rick424

Jan-23-14 9:59 AM

"We are all born equal"

That may be true in theory but in reality it is not. Rich people have advantages poor people do not. Men have advantages women do not. I could get into the race thing but will stay out of that on here. But what I would have said is true.

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leaningright

Jan-23-14 9:44 AM

To speak on inequality- 21 trillion spent so far on poverty and look at where we are at today. You can't buy people out of poverty with our tax dollars like the Liberals and Obama want to do. You work your way out of poverty. That will never happen in todays society. We are all born equal but that is where it ends, the rest is up to you and your family and your upbringing. Sound tough? It is but millions do the right things everyday, get to it. Thats not right or left, it is life as we know it.

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CMReeder

Jan-23-14 8:40 AM

Now we know the right is for inequality. Freedom is more important than wealth.

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Garben78

Jan-23-14 8:08 AM

Wait a minute aren't drugs and prostitution legal? Or do certain communities turn a blind eye

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rick424

Jan-23-14 8:03 AM

How about gay marriage?

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eriklatranyi

Jan-23-14 7:58 AM

Rick:

You are not going to get a lot of arguments from conservatives on decriminalizing drugs and legalizing prostitution.

Yes, Milton Friedman was brilliant and well-ahead of his time.

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rick424

Jan-23-14 7:52 AM

Ahh yes Milton Friedman the favorite right wing economist. Some say the father of the tea party. Milton Friedman believed in gay marriage. He also believed we should legalize drugs and prostitution. So what is your point?

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Steelman

Jan-23-14 7:52 AM

Now it is all starting to come to gether....

"As has been well documented, I smoked pot as a kid, and I view it as a bad habit and a vice, not very different from the cigarettes that I smoked as a young person up through a big chunk of my adult life," Obama said during the interview. "

For marijuana, much of the concern is with young people who use the drug, because the drug interferes with the development of the brain while it is still maturing, Smoking marijuana interferes with connections being made in the brain "at a time when the brain should be at a clear state of mind, and accumulating, memory and data and good experiences that should be laying out the foundation for the future

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hopeforfuture

Jan-23-14 7:31 AM

Remember smoking pot is OK in his mind so maybe he is just blowing smoke and his judgement is off.

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Premier

Jan-23-14 6:48 AM

No Eric, I think Obama is open minded.

Just not to anything that is based in logic or makes sense.

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ericwilliamsport

Jan-23-14 6:23 AM

Rofl.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-23-14 6:23 AM

President Obama is not open-minded enough to consider an alternative point of view.

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VinceKnauff

Jan-23-14 5:56 AM

If Obama picked up a Milton Friedman book it would burst into flames.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jan-23-14 2:08 AM

President Obama has all ready learned from Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, and Jeremiah Wright so why would he want to read a book from Milton Friedman.

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