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January 28, 2014

Tell me again why we taxpayers have to pay for criminals' sex changes and other perks....

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rmiller

Jan-30-14 10:53 AM

farmer,

I'll take a stab at your spoon stirring the pot....I'll ask this again,

How is NOT giving a sex change acting "in HUMANELY"?

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farmer

Jan-29-14 6:02 PM

don't want to stir the pot guys, but I didn't see any where that Chuck said he supported this ruling. All I heard was that prisoners should be treated humanly.

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rmiller

Jan-28-14 11:03 PM

"Some fool calls "gender confusion" a medical condition rather than a mental illness and suddenly it can be treated with surgery."

What happens if they get "gender confused again?"

Who's to determine that once is enough?

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rmiller

Jan-28-14 11:02 PM

Chuck,

"That you can treat them as inhumanely as possible. "

Chuck, do tell....how is it INHUMANE to not allow for a sex change?

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rmiller

Jan-28-14 11:00 PM

We pay because we have a society of me, me , me mindset. Why do we pay for work out equipment for prisoners to stay in fit shape? Please don't go there with, well if they didn't work out, they would gain weight, and or more ruckus incidents would occur in the prisons. So, let them die of either high cholesterol heart attacks or by some man made weapon. But, the exercise equipment hasn't changed anything has it? There are still prison wars and monstrous actions behind bars. Maybe if we gave them the sex changes they wanted.....now that's a novice thought.

If from the top down, our govt. doesn't know how to manage money, what makes you think they can manage a person's distorted gender problems by paying good money after bad?

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GoBB62

Jan-28-14 8:28 PM

"Let's cut through the chase, Chuck, Shaman and Mercury, are you all saying that tax payers should be on the hook for this surgery and why?" - Capricorn1

"Capricorn1 how many other medical procedures would you like to stop?" - chuckles

Chuckles, being the good lib/progressive that he is, can't even give a straight forward answer to a very simple question.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-28-14 4:27 PM

Shaman clearly loves transsexuals as evidenced by his obsession with T-Bagging!

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Capricorn1

Jan-28-14 3:19 PM

Capricorn1 how many other medical procedures would you like to stop? -Chuck

Come on Chuck, this is clearly an elective procedure that I would venture to guess most insurance policies don't cover. And you feel tax payers should pay for a convicted murderer? We aren't talking about procedures/surgeries that are performed out of necessity.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-28-14 3:04 PM

If liberals had their way, medical coverage would only be extended to those that support the state, not those who oppose it.

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USABorn

Jan-28-14 2:32 PM

CMReeder - 1:35 PM

"Capricorn1 how many other medical procedures would you like to stop?"

Reeder, considering your comments, perhaps you would do well with a lobotomy!

CMReeder

Jan-28-14 1:35 PM Agree | Disagree

Capricorn1 how many other medical procedures would you like to stop?

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USABorn

Jan-28-14 2:25 PM

The other side of the coin!!

A transgender California inmate has lost a legal bid for a sex-change operation at taxpayer expense.

Lyralisa Stevens, who was born male but lives as a female, is serving 50 years to life for killing a San Bernardino County woman with a shotgun in a dispute over clothes. On Wednesday, the 1st District Court of Appeal in San Francisco denied the 42-year-old prisoner's surgery request, ending — at least for now — her two-year legal battle to force the state to pay for removal of her male genitalia.

Her attorney is considering whether to appeal to the state Supreme Court.

Had Stevens prevailed, California would have been the first state in the U.S. required to provide sexual reassignment surgery for an inmate diagnosed with gender identity disorder. The operation typically costs $15,000 to $50,000, depending on the complexity of the procedure.

California provides hormones to transgender inmates at about $1000/yr.

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USABorn

Jan-28-14 2:22 PM

Another for the lazy Sham!!!!

Ophelia De'Lonta, born Michael A. Stokes, was sentenced in 1980 to 73 years for bank robbery. The 53-year-old De'Lonta has been diagnosed with gender identity disorder, a medically recognized illness in which people believe they were born the wrong gender.

She said her lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Roanoke will proceed. De'Lonta said her hopes of succeeding in court were buoyed by a Jan. 17 federal appeals court ruling that Massachusetts must provide sex reassignment surgery for another inmate with gender identity disorder.

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USABorn

Jan-28-14 2:18 PM

MrShaman - 9:06 AM

"Re: taxpayer-funded sex change operation for a transgender inmate serving a life sentence for a murder conviction

"Yeah...I could put-together something, like that, as well."

"No names??"

Sham you are soooooooooo lazy!!!!

"Michelle Kosilek was born male but has received hormone treatments and now lives as a woman in an all-male prison. Robert Kosilek was convicted of murder in the killing of his wife in 1990.

U.S. District Judge Mark Wolf is believed to be the first federal judge to order prison officials to provide sex-reassignment surgery for a transgender inmate.

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Steelman

Jan-28-14 2:01 PM

Obamacare doesn’t cover elective surgeries but I have to pay for one. for a guy that is incarcerated. Are you kidding me?

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Ritty77

Jan-28-14 1:53 PM

Many times, a troll will post very obvious falsehoods just so someone will pay attention to it. Don't give it the attention it craves. ___

With all the attention paid to the cost of incarceration, the last thing we should be buying for inmates are elective surgeries. Just seems logical.

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CMReeder

Jan-28-14 1:35 PM

Capricorn1 how many other medical procedures would you like to stop?

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CMReeder

Jan-28-14 1:32 PM

Yeah they are criminals but that doesn't mean we stop seeing them as human beings. Apparently you do. That you can treat them as inhumanely as possible.

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Capricorn1

Jan-28-14 1:26 PM

Let's cut through the chase, Chuck, Shaman and Mercury, are you all saying that tax payers should be on the hook for this surgery and why?

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SteelerFan

Jan-28-14 12:26 PM

'Irony is lost on you SteelerFan.'

real pithy Chuckles

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nobud74

Jan-28-14 12:12 PM

"The live in a box behind bars cut off from the freedoms enjoyed by the rest of us. Yeah they are living the sweet life."--Mr. Reeder

Charles, that is the point of prison. To cut them off from the freedoms the rest of us enjoy. They are criminals. Why the f is it so tough for libs to get that concept? Tell ya what Chuck, why don't we just let some prisoners out early and they can move in next door to you. I'm sure they will make spectacular neighbors and the rest of your neighbors will feel so good and so safe. Yep, that's the ticket!

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Capricorn1

Jan-28-14 11:26 AM

Mercury, comparing one judges ruling that this surgery is a medical necessity, to the second amendment of the constitution is a stretch, even for you. I think you are on the wrong letter to lobby against guns.

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MECURY2

Jan-28-14 11:20 AM

Capricorn1: Don't you just love the "Constitution"! This inmate plays the same "card" as the gun nuts do when it comes to the "Second ammendment", it's concrete and can't be changed,never!! "Tit for Tat"! and pass the ammo or in this case,pass the hormone shot! "Live by the sword, die by the sword"!

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farmer

Jan-28-14 11:17 AM

I for one don't think this ruling will stand, nor do I think it should stand. I believe prisoners should have proper health care but in my opinion this is not basic health care. As far as all those other "perks" prison life provides , one would have to be rather lacking in their mental capacity to think this makes prison life fun and relaxing.

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CMReeder

Jan-28-14 11:09 AM

Irony is lost on you SteelerFan.

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SteelerFan

Jan-28-14 10:51 AM

Chuck calling someone stupid, now there is the irony for the day.

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