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January 30, 2014

Recently the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training Center released a report in the FBI bulletin....

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rmiller

Feb-01-14 8:23 PM

"Mental and emotional health have everything to do with mass killings."

Uhhh Phil, mass, serial, lone killings (as in the word murder) have everything to do with evil, and not emotional or mental disorders..

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rmiller

Feb-01-14 8:13 PM

cont.

To date, against all attempts to discredit its authority, the Constitution is still the highest law of the land. so, before God, defending one's self is not only a right, but self defense is a Biblical right.

As for those who are ready to throw Roe V. Wade in the mix, The Constitutional amendments added that "take a life" are not honoring before God because two clear issues come to heart (self defense and murder). I'm not going to debate this, I have accepted that this nightmare exists and that God will reckon with that some day.

johnny, a God of Love is surely a God of Wrath and that's the God that no one wants to hear about.

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rmiller

Feb-01-14 8:01 PM

johnny,

"rmiller - I have no problem with the first part of your statement, but what "wrath"/vengeance/retribution are you witnessing/experiencing? 911 was about evil people attacking our country. "

No, God did not do 911, but He did allow it. Therein is a question/statement to ponder in and of itself.

We are a country who has pushed Him further and further out of almost every arena and every arena that can do so has done so.

johnny, Yes, He is a God of love and His love demands devotion and reciprocal love. We (speaking for the majority of Americans) do not, have not, and will not worship Him and Him alone. There are so many gods out there, not the least of which is pride...

As He is a God of Love, He is also a God of Wrath/Justness.....both co-exist.

As for the right to own/carry? It is the law of the land and as such God expects us to obey the laws of the land.

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farmer

Jan-31-14 6:49 PM

it was three years before passage of the Gun Control Act of 1968, the sweeping measure that became law after the assassinations of Robert F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr.

I really think the NRA needs to come up with a new battle cry.

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farmer

Jan-31-14 6:47 PM

leaningright: Farmer, way more than 20,000, I was being conservative thats all.

I'm sorry, but I was being facetious. That 20,000 number is so bogas. The gun lobby has been using that number for almost 50 years now, and no one is sure where Rep. John Dingell came up with it. (he never would say how he arrived at it) Most people who have actually researched it, rather then just repeating it like a battle cry, think it comes from a time when most gun laws where written buy local counties and municipalities. i.e. Hughesville has 3 gun laws, Williamsport has 5, Lycoming Co. has 6 on their books.Now of course all three have duplicate laws, but that still adds up to 14 individual gun laws. Multiply that by every town and co. in the country and, wow, thats a lot of laws. Now the fact that 40 states have laws that preempt local laws, so I think we need drop the number a bit. One other thing I should point out. In 1965 when Rep Dingell came up with his 20,000 gun laws - cont.

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leaningright

Jan-31-14 12:37 PM

Farmer, way more than 20,000, I was being conservative thats all.

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farmer

Jan-31-14 12:19 AM

leaning right: "20,000 gun laws on the books now, so what is it you want now"

I find it strange that with all the new laws passed to to restrict gun ownership over the past 20 years or so, that there are still only 20,000 gun laws on the books, considering that 49 years ago, Rep. John Dingell said there where 20,000 gun laws on the books. Did we drop some gun laws along the way to make room for new ones?

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farmer

Jan-30-14 11:47 PM

USABorn: "The Obama Administration has proposed replacing the current U.S. Constitution (4,543 words, including the signatures) with a 2,300-page “new Constitution” that in the words of an administration spokesperson, “clears up the gray areas in the current Constitution.”

Again, maybe this is why the founding fathers wanted to limit the vote to such a small group of men. They were worried about letting uneducated people screw up the voting process.

I'm sorry, that's not what I had planned to say, it just came out. What I had planned to say was, USAborn, that has to be one of the most asinine statements posted here in, well like, in forever.

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Premier

Jan-30-14 5:19 PM

"You have an organization that has called for more guns every time there is a mass shooting."- Charles

Yes Charles that organization is called Liberals. Every time they start their rhetoric, gun sales shoot through the roof.

"The NRA calls for more guns and gun ownership or are you telling me that they don't." - Charles

Yeah Chuck your right, I can't tell you otherwise. I just got my renewal application and I have to send a copy of 2 gun purchase receipts within the last 6 months to them plus I must get a membership for everyone in my household by the end of 2014 or face prosecution.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-30-14 4:01 PM

In every socialized country, you are allowed to own firearms....just being "approved" is nearly impossible unless you are a trusted, loyal member of the ruling party.

In the US, one only has to look at NYC, where you can get a concealed carry license, but it is given only to the wealthy elites.

In New Jersey, you need a permit to purchase a firearm. Again, it is quite selective.

Liberals will say it is good to thoroughly screen these people.

The truth is that it is the means used to deny permits to anyone other than the selected.

Socialism is not for the socialists....its for everyone else.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-30-14 3:58 PM

Let's see. Sen Diane Feinstein: “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States, for an outright ban, picking up everyone of them (every gun) Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in. I would have done it.”

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USABorn

Jan-30-14 3:57 PM

One question.....

Do you think he would be dumb enough to try and by-pass the Congress and ratification by the states, and adopt this grand new constitution with an Executive Order?

No right-minded person would put ANYTHING past this megalomaniac.

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USABorn

Jan-30-14 3:51 PM

And by the way, what nut could even BEGIN to believe the "success" of the Affordable Care Act and the Dodd-Frank financial reform act?

oops.....liberals believe anything that Dumbama comes up with!

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USABorn

Jan-30-14 3:48 PM

Some critics who have reviewed the 2,300 pages of the proposed “new Constitution” have stated that the document is impenetrable even to those with law degrees. Average citizens “will be unable to understand the laws that govern their lives.”

Typical crap from Dumbama!!!!

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USABorn

Jan-30-14 3:47 PM

I'm sure the following will take care of getting rid of guns:

The Obama Administration has proposed replacing the current U.S. Constitution (4,543 words, including the signatures) with a 2,300-page “new Constitution” that in the words of an administration spokesperson, “clears up the gray areas in the current Constitution.”

The proposal was launched after the success of two recent 1,000+ page pieces of legislation, the Affordable Care Act and the Dodd-Frank financial reform act.

An additional 200+ pages of the “new Constitution” are redacted due to the sensitive nature of the National Security-related amendments.

Lobbyists from key industries were invited to contribute amendments to the new Constitution;” constitutional legal experts were also invited to submit improvements to the current law of the land.

cont'd

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underwood

Jan-30-14 3:14 PM

You’re not going to get most gun restriction folks to tell you their ultimate goal because they’re only acting upon their feel good desire to do something about guns at the moment, since they perceive guns as instruments of violence. Since this is all emotional for them they won’t offer anything rational to back up their positions.

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USABorn

Jan-30-14 2:56 PM

The United States is 3rd in murders throughout the world.

But if you take out Chicago, Detroit, Washington, D.C. and New Orleans, the U.S. is 4th from the bottom for murders.

These 4 cities also have the toughest gun control laws in the U.S.

ALL 4 are controlled by Democrats.

It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data – right?

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leaningright

Jan-30-14 2:07 PM

The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. They have 20,000 gun laws on the books now, so what is it you want now? You want our guns, thats what I think. "Shall not be infringed" doesnt sound like "hey lets compromise" to me. Seems to be very clear and the supreme court thinks so too.

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Capricorn1

Jan-30-14 1:37 PM

Farmer, personally I don't buy into the notion that the government will take away our second amendment rights, at least not in my lifetime, if ever. However, there are those that comment here that come across that this is what they would like to see but they never come right out and say it as Senator Feinstein has. I'm simply asking if that's how you feel, then come right out and say it.

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farmer

Jan-30-14 1:28 PM

Capricorn1: "what is the end game you are hoping for, the total ban of all fire arms?"

Of course there are people who would like to see ALL guns banned and confiscated. There are also people who think Elvis is living in Katmandu with Michel Jackson. But nobody really takes either group seriously.

The NRA likes to tell us "they'll start by taking our AR's and the next thing you know they're taking little Johnny's slingshot". Any thing is possible of course, but personally I think they are nuts. The problem as I see it is with this argument, it allows absolutely no room for compromise, or even simple discussion. It's a rocket launcher in every pantry or you're stepping on my 2nd Amendment rights. There is a middle ground in every debate. Compromise is not an evil thing, it is by definition what democracy is about.

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johnnyad3

Jan-30-14 1:20 PM

"I pray God's mercy on America and not what we are just beginning to observe, His wrath."

rmiller - I have no problem with the first part of your statement, but what "wrath"/vengeance/retribution are you witnessing/experiencing? 911 was about evil people attacking our country.

God is about love. I do not and will not ever believe God had anything to do with that. First of all, why would he create a law, Thou shalt not kill, and then commit the action Himself? I don't buy it.

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Capricorn1

Jan-30-14 11:35 AM

Chuck, I have asked you and a couple of others this before and still have yet to get an answer; what is the end game you are hoping for, the total ban of all fire arms? While you and a few others on here preach like that is what you would like to see, I have yet to hear any of you come right out and admit it. If that's your stance, then say so. You're free to your opinion but at least be clear about it.

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rmiller

Jan-30-14 11:17 AM

Good post JohnZ.

911 was a wake-up call and then America fell asleep again and when they awoke, what a tumultuous and depraved country we have become. All the talking heads, each one with their own "reasoning"....which is part and parcel the beginning of "humanism" and still nothing changes. We keep advancing more and more to the end of the cliff. I'm so glad I know I won't be here when things completely run amok. There will no longer be the presence of the Holy Spirit.

BTW, I would challenge those "reason" persons thinking and the atheists of the world to attend an open mike seminar to be held this coming week at Community Baptist. A noted creationist and a noted evolutionist will engage in debate. If you are courageous, you will challenge yourself to attend.

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rmiller

Jan-30-14 11:09 AM

Excellent letter, Pastor Otto. Truth can't be defeated, not by all the armies of the world. We are a nation so far from God, and so close to "everyone doing what is right in their own eyes." There are no answers for our nation outside of Jesus Christ, period. A revival is in order. I pray God's mercy on America and not what we are just beginning to observe, His wrath.

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eriklatranyi

Jan-30-14 10:39 AM

Mr. Reeder:

The increase in mass shootings does not stem from an increase in firearm ownership.

In fact, overall deaths from firearms has declined since the increase in firearm ownership.

The increase in mass shootings is because the mentality of the people who do such shootings is attracted to the media hyper-coverage.

Prior to 24 hour news, such coverage was not given.

I am not blaming the media on this. The perpetrators are mentally unstable, but seek the attention.

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