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Voter suppression act

February 2, 2014

I read your editorial about Pennsylvania's voter identification act. This law was clearly designed to deny the right to vote to certain classes of people who historically vote Democratic....

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pinecr

Feb-03-14 1:24 PM

To the writer....not sure where you are coming from. It is very easy for everyone to get an i.d. if they are a legal citizens in this country...so no problem with requiring i.d. to vote, unless some politician is depending upon the illegals in this country to vote him into office.

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Steelman

Feb-03-14 8:54 AM

cont.

and address on it. The address must match that of the person with whom you reside.

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Steelman

Feb-03-14 8:53 AM

cont.

PLEASE NOTE All documents must show the same name and date of birth, or an association between the information on the documents. Additional documentation may be required if a connection between documents cannot be established (e.g. Marriage Certificate, Court Order of name change, Divorce Decree, etc.) PUB 195US (11-09) _ W-2 Form _ Current Weapons Permit _ Current Utility Bills (water, gas, electric, cable, etc.) _ Tax Records _ Lease Agreements _ Mortgage Documents NOTE: For Current Utility Bills: Cellular/Mobile or Pager Bills are not acceptable. If you reside with someone, and have no bills in your name, you will still need to provide two proofs of residency. One proof is to bring the person with whom you reside along with their Drivers License or Photo ID to the Driver License Center. You will also need to provide a second proof of residency such as official mail (bank statement, tax notice, magazine etc.) that has your name and address on it. The address must mat

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Steelman

Feb-03-14 8:52 AM

“would find it very difficult to provide the required documentation to get their ID unless they hired a lawyer, which they could never afford to do” Richard Tobin If you need to hire a Lawyer to provide the following maybe you should not vote in the first place.

If you are 18 years of age or older and you are a resident of Pennsylvania you will need to show: _ one form of identification from List A, _ two forms of proof of residency from List B, and _ your Social Security Card.

LIST A: Acceptable Forms of Identification for U.S. Citizens: _ Birth Certificate with raised seal (U.S. issued by an authorized government agency, including U.S. territories or Puerto Rico. Non-U.S. Birth Certificates will not be accepted.) _ Certificate of U.S. Citizenship (INS Form N-560) _ Certificate of Naturalization (INS Form N-550 or N-570) _ Valid U.S. Passport

LIST B: Acceptable List of Documents for Proof of Residency for Applicants 18 Years of Age or Older: PLEASE NOTE All d

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rmiller

Feb-03-14 7:43 AM

Rick,

Here's the crux of this issue. If voter suppression is real (and the jury is actually still out) one needs ask why? Provisions are being made to do everything to accommodate these "suppressed" voters in their needs to get the IDs. If this were in reverse, (an example would be the registration of a gun and subsequent background check...when the Constitution speaks nothing about those stipulations) it would be unwise for the Republicans to scream about obtaining an ID. Don't see this as a political party gain one way or the other, rather as a goal to level the playing field. And, do Democrats actually believe that all conservative/Republicans are rich?

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Capricorn1

Feb-03-14 5:49 AM

Seems to be a REAL hot topic for republicans right now. They think they need those votes to have a remote chance of winning. -Rick

Rick, my point was that these illegals are in fact casting ballots because they do have so much at stake in who wins. Google it for yourself and see how they have caught people in Texas, Nevada, Arizona and as far north as Ohio. And that is only examples of those that have been caught because without the requirement for ID, no one really knows how widespread the problem is. Do democrats not consider the voting by illegals fraud, or is that exactly why they are against the requirement? And maybe you're right, maybe Republicans are now going to try and sway the illegal votes their way. Either way, it's fraud.

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idiottwo

Feb-03-14 5:45 AM

such dishonesty.

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rick424

Feb-02-14 11:43 PM

So rmiller, why do we need the ID? All those years we never had to have it now all of a sudden we do. And it is driven mostly by conservative republicans. I just don't understand.

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rmiller

Feb-02-14 11:01 PM

Hi Jerry,

"There is no constitutional right to buy a gun, only to bear one."

Well, unlike the criminals, I'd like to do things legally. :)

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rmiller

Feb-02-14 10:47 PM

This letter sounds like something out of the 40's or 50's before the Civil Rights Issue. Get real, this isn't poor me, I can't get to the ID place to get me my ID, but I sures can get me to the welfare office to get my next evaluation to make it sure that I keeps getting those welfare checks...

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JerryfromRI

Feb-02-14 9:56 PM

Seahawks, Cheerios, Coca Cola and Chrysler, all world champions.

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JerryfromRI

Feb-02-14 7:09 PM

Technically, a well regulated militia could issue you an arm and your right to bear it would not infringed.

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JerryfromRI

Feb-02-14 7:06 PM

There is no constitutional right to buy a gun, only to bear one.

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msgjsheets

Feb-02-14 6:59 PM

I'll concede this issue to all of those freedom loving Democrats out there if they concede that I no longer have to show I.D. to buy a gun, pseudofed or claritin. How bout it????

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Doobio24

Feb-02-14 6:31 PM

53 comments and not one example of someone who will forfeit their right to vote by being forced to prove they are who they say they are and that they only voted once? Remember a judge said this would prevent 100,000 people from voting. A good question is why are liberals so afraid to show an id?

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Premier

Feb-02-14 5:51 PM

What say the government was giving away 60" TV's to anyone who could provide a photo ID. How many ID handicapped people would we have then?

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JerryfromRI

Feb-02-14 5:18 PM

Envy much? Lol no. My chances of getting into heaven are much better by not being in the 1%. I already make more then I need Mike, I give the rest away.

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MrShaman

Feb-02-14 5:14 PM

Why are we having voter ID discussions any. There hasn't been any discussions on this until recently. What changed? All states except 1 that have some sort of voter ID laws are republican controlled. Could this possibly be the reason? -Rick

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"Why is illegal immigration and amnesty always a hot topic for Democrats prior to an election?" - Capricorn1

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'Cause you "conservatives" always bring-it-UP???????

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cheyenne

Feb-02-14 5:10 PM

Amazing, requiring someone to put forth an extra miniscule amount of effort to do something, equates to denying them the right to do it. Can you delusional fantasyland dwellers be any more over-dramatic?

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MrShaman

Feb-02-14 5:03 PM

"Former Democratic Rep. Artur Davis, who is black, said vote fraud is rampant in African-American districts like his in Alabama." - Ritty77

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You Teabaggers DO know how-often Tucker Carlson has been fired, for making such wild-claims, right??

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See:

Former Dem Rep. Artur Davis Still Wouldn't Provide Examples Of Voter Fraud

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rick424

Feb-02-14 5:03 PM

"Why is illegal immigration and amnesty always a hot topic for Democrats prior to an election?"

Seems to be a REAL hot topic for republicans right now. They think they need those votes to have a remote chance of winning.

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MrShaman

Feb-02-14 4:57 PM

"who ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO VOTE,"

Vince, name names, instances and circumstances before making accusations. Back up the claim, please." - sideliner

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Don't hold your breath, while waiting.

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MrShaman

Feb-02-14 4:55 PM

"I know personally of an in person voter fraud in this area. A family member had it happen to them two years ago. So, yes, it does happen." - nobud74

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Gee...I'M convinced!!!!!!

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MrShaman

Feb-02-14 4:52 PM

"This law was clearly designed to deny the right to vote to certain classes of people who historically vote Democratic."

Ooo, you're sooo close to the truth, but you left out a couple words. Let me fix that for you.

"This law was clearly designed to deny the right to vote to certain classes of people who ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO VOTE, AND THOSE PEOPLE historically vote Democratic." - VinceKnauff

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Very creative.

How "odd" you Teabaggers always "forget" to include any pertinent-data, to support your allusions...you know...documented-facts.

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MrShaman

Feb-02-14 4:44 PM

"I was once a registered Republican and voted for Nixon against my father's advice. I am ashamed of that and every Republican should be." - Richard Tobin

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I'm no fan of Nixon...especially after he tried to hijack the '72 Presidential-election (i.e. Watergate), but...when it comes to a body-count of innocents...I'd say ol' ReRon gave Dick a run-for-his-money...

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See:

Ronald Reagan: Accessory to Genocide

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