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The political pendulum

February 4, 2014

The current administration, with its strategy of narrative over truth and ideology over everything else, has made the coming congressional elections look ever more favorable for the opposition and......

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rmiller

Feb-08-14 10:50 PM

I guess I should have said, "anymore than the war in Afghanistan..."

Too tired, time to go to bed.

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rmiller

Feb-08-14 10:49 PM

Hello Scott,

"Yes, In his first run for office, he indicated that nobody is above the law, yet did not at least "investigate" Bush, Cheney, etc. for war crimes committed in the name of the USA."

I don't know how I feel anymore about the war in Iraq, than the War in Afghanistan.....just my thoughts.

As for leveling the playing field? Tilting it? That would bring us full circle from where I started with "leveling." It suggests that we have any control over the entire event of life, itself. You know my thoughts concerning God, so for me, leveling the playing field as a reality leaves God out of the equation, along with our own responsibility. No, God has not blessed equally, all people? Does God want to bless equally....indeed. But, we bear our own responsibility there too. So, I guess much comes back to our own motivational drive. And, to take this one step further....what is behind one's "motives?"

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Scott36

Feb-07-14 3:09 PM

Life is not based on opportunity alone. Much is based on self motivation to change "circumstance/s" to better one's self. We can't possibly expect to level the playing field, that is reality.-rmiller

You perked my interest with this...Very true "motivation"(usually) needs to come from within, however not having a level playing field??? Are you suggesting that the field should be "tilted" one way or another?-Scott

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Scott36

Feb-07-14 3:04 PM

Are you anti-Obama anything with respect to his years of office and or any policies?-rmiller

Yes, In his first run for office, he indicated that nobody is above the law, yet did not at least "investigate" Bush, Cheney, etc. for war crimes committed in the name of the USA. I do realize that not many in this area agree, but it is what it is.-Scott--Have a Safe & happy day!!

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rmiller

Feb-06-14 10:01 PM

Hi Forty,

" Equality of opportunities....striving for that is not asking for utopia."

Since the word, "opportunity" is being used, it infers possibility that something will occur, as a beneficial "chance."

Life is not based on opportunity alone. Much is based on self motivation to change "circumstance/s" to better one's self. We can't possibly expect to level the playing field, that is reality.

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FortySixand2

Feb-06-14 6:26 PM

FDR was referring too the war effort in his comments about no one becoming rich. What he was saying is we heavily tax the war industry business ty***** so that they don't become wealthy at the sacrifice of so many others. FDR was a great man.

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FortySixand2

Feb-06-14 5:55 PM

Equality of opportunities....striving for that is not asking for utopia. All too often we are told by those who won the birth lottery (born into wealth) to pick ourselves up by the bootstraps. Proposing a living wage would actually force major corporate welfare recipients off the taxpayer dole.

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rmiller

Feb-05-14 5:03 PM

Hello Scott,

"It would appear that the conservative "ideology", or "set of beliefs and principles" or whatever word game you choose to play is simple for the Right wing---anything "anti-Obama".

Are you anti-Obama anything with respect to his years of office and or any policies?

"far fringe Right" That would be me! Perhaps most in the area of Christianity (as defined by my God and not man) and I can assure you that Democrats/Republicans/libertarians...whatever.....the field is scarce.

liberty, freedom, being patriotic? These ideologies don't just belong to "far right fringe" and we don't claim that. We do question one's values within each of these, right wrong or indifferent to check their feelings against traditional values.

Personally, I believe that pride in our country and pride in our govt. are not the same and it is in those distinctive feelings that arguments ensue. I am proud of my country, but not proud of my go

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rmiller

Feb-05-14 4:06 PM

Forty,

Equality (regardless of laws legislating it) only exist when those seeking protection under the clause, ask for it....not demand it. Having a "right" doesn't make it "right".

Equality is a utopia, which I asserted on another LTR. It's a wonderful thought of course, but not reality.

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rmiller

Feb-05-14 4:03 PM

Forty,

Long time no see...back strong as ever I see :)

I just added to FDR's quote you posted and then my opinion to where this began and where we are.

"No person should try, or be allowed to get rich out of the program (there is no way to accurately assess this activity with the amount of persons on the system versus the amount of persons available to monitor), and the principle of tax payments in accordance with ability to pay (ability to pay has long since been infused with the right to receive benefits based on marginal guidelines) should be constantly before our eyes to guide our legislation.(and we know this isn't happening"

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Capricorn1

Feb-05-14 3:05 PM

Forty, JFK also said, "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country."

I wonder what he would say today about the entitlement nation we have become.

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FortySixand2

Feb-05-14 11:10 AM

"I have called for personal sacrifice, and I am assured of the willingness of almost all Americans to respond to that call. A part of the sacrifice means the payment of more money in taxes. In my budget message I will recommend that a greater portion of this great defense program be paid for from taxation than we are paying for today. No person should try, or be allowed to get rich out of the program, and the principle of tax payments in accordance with ability to pay should be constantly before our eyes to guide our legislation." FDR from his Four Freedoms Speech

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FortySixand2

Feb-05-14 11:07 AM

We should bring more citizens under the coverage of old-age pensions and unemployment insurance.

We should widen the opportunities for adequate medical care.

We should plan a better system by which persons deserving or needing gainful employment may obtain it.

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FortySixand2

Feb-05-14 11:05 AM

These are the simple, the basic things that must never be lost sight of in the turmoil and unbelievable complexity of our modern world. The inner and abiding strength of our economic and political systems is dependent upon the degree to which they fulfill these expectations.

Many subjects connected with our social economy call for immediate improvement. As examples:

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FortySixand2

Feb-05-14 11:01 AM

"The basic things expected by our people of their political and economic systems are simple. They are:

Equality of opportunity for youth and for others.

Jobs for those who can work.

Security for those who need it.

The ending of special privilege for the few.

The preservation of civil liberties for all.

The enjoyment -- The enjoyment of the fruits of scientific progress in a wider and constantly rising standard of living." Franklin Delano Roosevelt

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FortySixand2

Feb-05-14 10:49 AM

If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." John F. Kennedy

A hearty "yeah, what he said" from this proud Liberal!

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Steelman

Feb-05-14 8:17 AM

Why Clinton should not be president The Clinton Record - Clinton's Accomplishments…………… MrShaman

3 Big Reasons Hillary Clinton Should Never be President - Daily Kos

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You were that upset with THE GREATEST ECONOMY THIS COUNTRY HAD EVER EXPERIENCED!!...after Daddy Bush's recession, huh?......MrShaman

* Clinton economic story is recession. President Clinton did not leave his successor a booming economy. He left President George W. Bush a recession. The recession began in March of 2001, two months after Clinton left office. Even the most rabid leftist cannot blame George Bush for the 2001 recession. It was the Clinton recession. - Two Huge Flaws in the Legend of the Clinton Economy - The Foundry

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Scott36

Feb-04-14 7:54 PM

Mr. Underwood,

It would appear that the conservative "ideology", or "set of beliefs and principles" or whatever word game you choose to play is simple for the Right wing---anything "anti-Obama". I also find it quite amusing when those from the far fringe Right try to claim "ownership" of anything they see as good. e.g.-Being Christian, liberty, freedom, being patriotic, etc. It is obvious to anyone that ONLY those from the far Right can be these things. Amazing. LOL Have a safe, & happy evening.-Scott

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underwood

Feb-04-14 6:19 PM

Scott36, ideology isn’t against anything, it’s a set of beliefs and principles for something like individual liberty and economic freedom. Those on the left don’t understand that because they never talk about their own ideology, they’re only able to try and distort the principles of anyone opposed to their collective big government.

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eriklatranyi

Feb-04-14 5:07 PM

President Obama has damaged the DNC due to his lies, mistakes and lack of leadership.

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MrShaman

Feb-04-14 3:57 PM

"Now there is talk that the money people for the GOP are pushing for Romney to run again. -Chuck

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"IMO it is going to be very tough to beat Hillary for one reason; the Madam President movement by the media." - Capricorn1

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You've forgotten the White-Wingers most-respected print-media resource???

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See:

HILLARY CLINTON TO DIVORCE BILL | Weekly World News

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MrShaman

Feb-04-14 3:47 PM

"A good GOP choice would be Gov Scott Walker of Wisconsin." - eriklatranyi

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Yeah...he's a "real stand-up guy"...until no one's looking.

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See:

Scott Walker Quietly Signs Controversial Anti-Abortion, Abstinence Measures On Eve Of Holiday

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Capricorn1

Feb-04-14 3:45 PM

Now there is talk that the money people for the GOP are pushing for Romney to run again. -Chuck

And if he goes against Hillary he will lose. IMO it is going to be very tough to beat Hillary for one reason; the Madam President movement by the media. Just like the movement to elect the first African American President, so will there be a social movement to elect the first woman President. The media will get on board as they did for Obama and that's all she will need. It worked for Obama and he had no experience and he didn't have the Clinton name. Sorry Republicans, you're best bet is to take control of both the House and the Senate.

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MrShaman

Feb-04-14 3:42 PM

"I also predict Clinton will not be the Democrat nominee." - eriklatranyi

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Gee...how "bold", of you...seeing-as-how there's no downside (from being wrong...again...as usual).

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MrShaman

Feb-04-14 3:37 PM

"Rick 424- I think the democrats would be horrified if Dr. Ben Carson ran..." - leaningright

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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No more, so, than your RED STATERS!!!!!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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