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February 5, 2014

Regarding Tim Mannello’s column Jan....

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Scott36

Feb-07-14 12:22 PM

Bubbazanetti,

True, in the past there were private bridges, and turnpikes. But honestly, when was the last one built/run privately?? There was a time when you could buy firearms through the mail. Coke had cocaine in it, all in the past though.-Scott

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Scott36

Feb-07-14 12:16 PM

Mr. Zook,

First off, when have I ever "complained about someone being rich"?? I have listened to limbah for decades.(it may surprise you to know that I actually agree with him at times). On the radio, he is a success, elsewhere, not so much. College- a semester & a half I believe. TV(where he cannot just hang up on someone, then rant on for 20 minutes)-again not so good. Then the dream job for a lot of men--a sports announcer for Sunday Football--1&1/2 wks. I believe. Drug addiction, how many marriages??(I understand this happens, but to go on about "moral family values" as if you are an expert...) Sorry, but money does not equate to greatness, that is unless you worship it. Of all the Great people in this country, who have done so much good for Her, this is your hero???

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BubbaZanetti

Feb-06-14 8:14 PM

"I'm sure that when a levy, dam, road, or bridge is needed, private enterprise will fund it--simply for the betterment of America." - Scott. That's right! In the past several roads and bridges in the area required tolls to paid for usage. They were built by business and industry. They were later sold or given to the state or local municipalities. The gas industry often funds road and bridge upgrades for their usage and yours.

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Ritty77

Feb-06-14 6:58 PM

Excellent posts, John Zook.

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JohnZook

Feb-06-14 4:28 PM

Oh, that's right, he must have been born into money like the Kennedy's....or married into money like John Kerry.... or stole 1.6 BILLION like John Corzine (and he's still walking the street= good Liberal). Yes, all these good Liberals gave soooo much to earn their lot in life.... Yeah, ole Joe Kennedy ran rum from Cuba during Prohibition, the same as running drugs today....

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JohnZook

Feb-06-14 4:23 PM

Scott, you could learn alot from EIB.... I would rather listen to someone who made it from nothing than an angry Liberal who just complains about someone else being rich and how unfair it is. Limbaugh never whined, even after being fired eight times, he never whined. And look where he is now; An audience of 23 million, his own jet, very connected to important people, public speaker, and a contract worth hundreds of millions of dollars... AND HE NEVER WHINED!!!!

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JohnZook

Feb-06-14 4:18 PM

That is what gov't adds to the economy.... money, taken by force, to siphon off for it's "needs" and return a pitiful amount to the economy. It's called a "soft tyranny"....

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JohnZook

Feb-06-14 4:15 PM

Gov'y, by force, takes away from the producers and then disperses it as they see fit. Ask the guy who put up all his money to start the restaurant, bought all the permits, hired a couple of people and hasn't been paid for six months so he could pay his employees.

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Scott36

Feb-06-14 10:22 AM

Mr. Underwood, A play on words. You said "government adds nothing to the economy..." Tell that to the restaurants, convenience stores, etc. in that area. Private businesses are paying for the bases??(maybe by using another play on words) Government has no resources???--In the "Twilight Zone" known as "EIB" possibly, but in truth not so much so. What about taxes??(or do they not count, just because you do not like them does not make that so)Or how about Gov. land with it's natural resources?? Just wondering-Scott

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underwood

Feb-05-14 6:27 PM

Scott36, closing a military base costs jobs in a politician’s district. Private enterprise IS funding the things you mentioned, government has no resources, it has to take funds for everything it does from the economy in one way or another.

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Scott36

Feb-05-14 5:41 PM

Government adds nothing to the economy,...-underwood

Why then do people go totally ballistic when the shutting down of a military base in a given area, for that matter, why not cut all defense spending(what the heck, put it all in private hands, companies will fund the defense of our shores), & I'm sure that when a levy, dam, road, or bridge is needed, private enterprise will fund it--simply for the betterment of America.-Scott

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Ritty77

Feb-05-14 5:29 PM

"Great idea keeping the people poor and out of reach of the products you are trying to sell."

How does one person keep another person poor? Please explain.

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JohnZook

Feb-05-14 4:59 PM

"Necessity is the mother of invention"

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gavinf56

Feb-05-14 3:41 PM

Google "Fight of the Century: Keynes vs Hayek Round 2"

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eriklatranyi

Feb-05-14 3:32 PM

WalMart was happy with the passage of the $1 trillion farm bill as it included extensions of food stamps.

This is how gov't giveaways plant the barbed hook into private sector companies. Those companies then rely on those giveaways to pad their bottom line

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z3r0c00l

Feb-05-14 3:18 PM

Back in 1999 I worked with a number of folks to develop a new protocol for the broadband market. Broadband was not wide spread at that time, and we thought it would be interesting to automate the provisioning of broadband devices (Cable modems, DSL etc.), for service. Telco’s (the customer) stated that truck rolls were the best way to handle installation of broadband. And yet we continued. We developed the protocol. This protocol is used by every single person using a cable modem, dsl device, FiOS device, or FEMTO to become activated and continue to connect to the internet over broadband. I’m glad we did not wait for the customer. While it’s true that the customer makes the purchase, they do not drive the market alone. We need both innovation, and consumer demand driven opportunities.

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underwood

Feb-05-14 3:08 PM

Actually a need can either lead to an innovation or an innovation can lead to a need or desire. In either case, the market will do a far better job of creating wealth than government that can’t create anything; it can only take it away.

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Capricorn1

Feb-05-14 2:27 PM

Were there is a need there will be invention. Need inspires an idea not the other way around. -Reeder

Where was the need for a pet rock, or a furby, or a chia pet, or perhaps a rubics cube?

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underwood

Feb-05-14 1:12 PM

Government adds nothing to the economy, it only takes from the economy and the bigger government gets, the more it takes. We’ve now reached the point where government is taking from the economy of future generations with the massive national debt. Anyone that can’t understand that is a fool and I’m being charitable with that description.

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CMReeder

Feb-05-14 12:51 PM

Sorry that is without consumers you have no business. You have no economy without consumers.

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CMReeder

Feb-05-14 12:50 PM

Without a consumer with money you definitely have no business. Great idea keeping the people poor and out of reach of the products you are trying to sell.

With consumers you have no business.

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underwood

Feb-05-14 12:10 PM

Just where are those consumers getting the money to do the consuming? A healthy economy doesn’t develop from government, it comes from government allowing it to develop.

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CMReeder

Feb-05-14 12:03 PM

If you don't have a consumer or consumers you have no business. Consumers drive the economy not business.

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enigma

Feb-05-14 11:47 AM

If liberals think that consumers are what drive the economy, where do they think that the things consumers consume come from? Doesn't it seem logical that you cannot consume that which has not been produced? Productions has to come first. Don't believe me? Try living on next year's harvest. You won't make it. Try making a call on your I-Phone 6, or driving your 2015 car. Try living in that planned development. You'll freeze to death. The fact is that most goods are produced with the expectation that people will buy them, not because people have already bought them. That's were investment comes in and only people with money can invest. Still hate the rich? They make everything you have or will have possible.

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eriklatranyi

Feb-05-14 11:21 AM

There is a difference between wants and needs.

Liberals think our needs should be supplied by gov't.

Liberals think our wants are frivolous, therefore, what would be spent on wants should be given to gov't to ensure there is enough to supply our needs.

This is why socialism always results in poverty for all...except the socialist leaders.

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