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February 5, 2014

Instead of worrying about the crayfish and trout that have made it through “decades” of natural disasters, why aren’t you focusing on cleaning out the creeks, streams and rivers that are causing......

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MimLogue

Feb-06-14 10:40 AM

Crayfish what about our kids??but the gov doesnt even know what kind of chemicals are being stored around our watersheds that could leak as in West Virginia the corporate cowards left the meetings and claimed bankruptcy leaving children drinking that crap&parents fearing cancer.this makes common sense??

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pinecr

Feb-06-14 9:51 AM

Good question Beni....why won't the state allow the creeks to be dredged. A contractor we know went to the Township and offered to dredge the creek on Little Pine because it had filled up several feet over the years, take the stone and crush it and give it to the Township to use. He was told that the State Fish and Game Commission would not allow that because it would harm the fish. Just goes to show you that unless it is an idea that comes from the Fish and Game Commission itself, they will not listen to anyone. And as far as the State being concerned about the water and the Bay, that is a joke...they allow the gas industry to rape the entire tops of the mountains and then when it rains, all that sediment runs right into the water because there is nothing at the tops of the mountains to control it. And "fromtheport" quite the ******* for your comment.

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BornHere

Feb-05-14 7:27 PM

Thanks Scott36. I have always considered myself to be an environmentalist because I like clean air to breath, drinkable water, and good food to eat and I prefer not to have any of them polluted with toxins that will hurt me or my family, but I thought that was what everyone wanted.

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Scott36

Feb-05-14 5:11 PM

BornHere,

Thank you for your efforts. To those whom tried to "correct" you, just consider the source.-Scott

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Scott36

Feb-05-14 5:01 PM

We can't touch the streams because environmentalists do not believe in conservation (good stewardship) but they believe in preservation (no contact from man).

Further proof that environmentalists know nothing about the environment.-eriklatranyi

Atta-boy erik, Typical conservative "tactic"--Make up your own statement(not that this is bad), and then claim it to be "proof".

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nobud74

Feb-05-14 1:09 PM

It really isn't that simple. The flow of water is quite a science and there is lots of federal and state red tape to go through when it comes to doing anything with a stream. I have a friend who is an engineer in this field and while it can be done, it is very expensive. Also, where do you decide where to run the stream? As for recovery of debris in the beds, who is going to pay for that? Again, very expensive and I'm not sure how much good can be done by removing debris and the effect that will have on water flow.

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Steelman

Feb-05-14 12:31 PM

Chuck, Are you saying that your dad destroyed the river by taking all of the fish out of it? …………enigma

I agree with enigma on this one. If his dad had left the river alone to its natural state, there probably would still be some fish left for the rest of us to enjoy.

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CMReeder

Feb-05-14 12:25 PM

You are an idiot!

I said my dad's generation enjoyed fishing for salmon and shad in the Susquehanna.

'Man's' destruction of waterways has eliminated the natural eco system for several species that use to be plentiful. In the Atlantic we have to farm raise salmon for consumption disrupting the natural process. We are now witnessing that progression on the West Coast.

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enigma

Feb-05-14 11:37 AM

Chuck, Are you saying that your dad destroyed the river by taking all of the fish out of it?

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Spigotz

Feb-05-14 11:01 AM

Kudos to you born here for your efforts in post flood.

cMReeder. Your dad caught Shad in the Suskey, not salmon.

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BornHere

Feb-05-14 10:54 AM

Thank you Mr. Reeder, I tried my best to help people because I was only effected with no electricity and no water, some people lost everything. When it was all over I threw a big picnic for everyone who helped these people out, it was my way of thanking them.

Some of the pictures and videos I took was used on Channel 16 and on YouTube. It's a time in my life I will always remember and I made many new friends during that experience.

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CMReeder

Feb-05-14 10:09 AM

My Dad's generation remembers catching salmon and shad in the Susquehanna. This how destructive 'man' has become with our waterways and with our environment.

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CMReeder

Feb-05-14 10:04 AM

Thanks Born for being a 'steward'. The wasters will not see it that way. Man's intervention in the natural system of the water ways has wrought more damage. It is not about saving crayfish or trout, they are used to prevent man from wreaking more damage.

Dikes keep major towns and cities from being flooded but it causes more flooding to areas above and below the*****areas. Man has drained swamps and wetlands. We built dams, dumped waste and sewage into streams and rivers. But now you want to dredge local waterways while we destroy woodlands and pave more surfaces creating more rain runoff into our local waterways.

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johnnyad3

Feb-05-14 9:25 AM

Erik's comments is proof he knows nothing about watersheds.

Good points Steelman

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USABorn

Feb-05-14 9:24 AM

BornHere - 8:19 AM

"only residents and clean up crews were allowed through with proper identification."

Required proper ID? How DARE they?

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Steelman

Feb-05-14 9:06 AM

Do these sound like natural things that keep our creeks, streams and rivers “natural”

Asphalt and concrete that are impermeable that creates more and faster run off.

Deforestation reduces interception by trees allowing water to reach surface quicker and increase rate of surface run off

Shopping malls and housing developments provide less penetrable surface area and produce faster runoff

Unscientific agricultural activities

Building of big dams and ponds

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BornHere

Feb-05-14 8:39 AM

I forgot to mention that some of the people who were taking pictures also were looting through people's properties while we were cleaning up, they could steal but they could not offer to help us.

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BornHere

Feb-05-14 8:19 AM

erik, I do know the difference, but there was active environmentalists groups helping us from Sullivan County and the Pine Creek area that were nice enough to donate their time to clean up the mess, while people from other parts of the County were to busy taking pictures of the devastation. It got so bad with people interfering with our work that the State police had to be called in to stop people at Slab Town Bridge from entering the area, only residents and clean up crews were allowed through with proper identification.

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eriklatranyi

Feb-05-14 7:50 AM

BornHere:

What you did in the Loyalsock was not something that makes you an environmentalist.

Nearly every able-bodied person would do the same thing....because it is the right thing to do.

But, environmental groups opposed individuals from "cleaning" out waterways as they might disturb some habitat.

Hopefully, you now see the difference.

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BornHere

Feb-05-14 6:31 AM

I don't know about other environmentalists but myself I volunteered after the 2011 flood with chest waders on helped clean up the Loyalsock Creek from Barbours Bridge down to Slab Town Bridge for 4 days.

I pulled out everything right down to the kitchen sink. So some of us are "good stewards of the environment."

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Premier

Feb-05-14 6:29 AM

Well Sham unless your computer is powered by hamsters in a wheel cage your pro-coal also.

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MrShaman

Feb-05-14 5:52 AM

"We can't touch the streams because environmentalists do not believe in conservation (good stewardship) but they believe in preservation (no contact from man)." - eriklatranyi

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That's "rich"...a (stated) pro-coal individual...instructing everyone-else on good stewardship!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!

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eriklatranyi

Feb-05-14 5:38 AM

We can't touch the streams because environmentalists do not believe in conservation (good stewardship) but they believe in preservation (no contact from man).

Further proof that environmentalists know nothing about the environment.

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susquehannaretriever

Feb-05-14 5:29 AM

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fromtheport

Feb-05-14 4:34 AM

If all the homes wash away the river will clean up just naturally.

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