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The real worry

February 6, 2014

A marijuana ring was just busted in Williamsport. Thirteen individuals are now known as drug traffickers....

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Runt77

Feb-23-14 4:15 PM

It is time to just "legalize" Marijuana is all natural comes from the earth where all other drugs are man made and have additives. I know this is a heated debate but I also know this does help people with health problems. I myself have had health problems and I am a frequent flyer in hospitals and Dr's offices and have talked to a lot of people that claim this has helped them some being terminal patients and if they are going to die than they need to be comfortable and if this is what gets them comfort then they should have it. I know what is coming next people will be saying "They have Marinol pills for that" well Do you know how much it costs for Marinol pills if you do not have health insurance? More than what most people can afford with health aliments. We have such a rampant ******e problem in this area LET'S CONCENTRATE ON THAT FIRST PLEASE!! We are losing kids right and left to that nasty MAN MADE Drug. If we can not get this legalized at least do it for m

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MECURY2

Feb-12-14 12:29 PM

DocWoody: So,I guess we can conclude this conversation and just say,"Life is a gamble,whether we die by getting hit by that bus or smoke ourselves to death". Check out the S.G.'s new poll, this is going to keep you busy! Great talking to you,a lot of good points,thank you!

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DocWoody

Feb-12-14 9:22 AM

MERCURY:Unfortunately nothing is set in stone. Everyone's body is different. You sir are lucky to have consumed cigs/alchol/pot with no ill effects and many more like you. My father smoked Camel non filters, 2 pks/day for 75 years and never got lung cancer but did get prostate cancer. Connected?? Who knows? He lived to be 90 and died of a heart attack. My friend Denise smoked 1/4 of what he did and died of lung cancer in both lungs, tumor in her chest and brain, at 51 and had NO symptoms until she coughed up blood and died a week later. You never know. In Science we can only predict the obvious but everyone's body is different so you never know. People I was in HS are still heavy Pot smokers (40 yrs later) with no ill effects so no absolutes just 'potentials' to be aware of just in case. People fall of buildings,survive, others don't?? The Human Body is still a mystery with as much as we know. We DO know smoking while drinking increases mouth cancers by 25% but many do with nothing..?

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MECURY2

Feb-11-14 11:33 AM

DocWoody: I agree with your reply and have even checked "agree" on the comment. I guess I'm in real trouble,I have smoked cigarettes for over 50 years and have drank my share of alcohol over the years and have about 30 years of pot smoking! You see my problem,I guess that's a good way of putting it across,I enjoyed doing it. I never smoked,drank or ever smoked pot till I was in Vietnam 68-69. After about four months there I started smoking cigarettes and smoking pot.Believe it or not I was at the end of the road,seeing to much death and friends die or got something blown off and was at a point I didn't want to live anymore. I decided to start smoking pot to take away the insanity and to this day, I believe it saved my life.This may be one in million why people smoke pot but,it's 100% true.I'm 64 and still standing but, your comment is well taken. Thank You!

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DocWoody

Feb-10-14 12:36 PM

Mercury2 - I believe that's what I said you just re-phrased it. The Govt and people will do what they do regardless. In regards to people dying from pot: Epidemiologists that I worked with studied drug trends/deaths/etc. The problem with 'Pot deaths' is finding a group who haven't smoked cigs, drank alcohol, or taken other drugs at some point so the ONLY thing they consumed was Pot. It's harder to find than you think. The second part is the carcinogens that are inhaled attach to fat cells in the body and can take 20-30+ years to become Cancerous and by that time it's hard to draw a line (like any cancer) to someone did this X years ago and now have cancer. However Pot is not filtered like Cigs and the amount of tar is 4X the amt with 400 carcinogens going into the lungs and 'sticking' there but too many also smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol as well. Also if you smoke cigs WHILE you are drinking alcohol your chances of throat and mouth cancer increase 25%...Google it!!

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MECURY2

Feb-09-14 2:00 PM

DocWoody:To expand on you comment dealing with the government taxing pot,not sure about your political background but, their is a group called the "TEA PARTY" that complains the government spends to much money but, I would think they would be onboard with legalizing pot for the taxes that can be made from selling it legally and the funny part is the "POTHEADS" would be ok with that even if you are a republican or democrat! I would guarantee you the crime rate would drop and the jails would then have plenty of room for REAL criminals!

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MECURY2

Feb-09-14 1:44 PM

DocWoody:I respect your profession and reply but, as Bob Dylan would say,"the times they are a'changing".Remember back in the "roaring 20's" when alcohol was illegal but, then it was legal again and the government taxed the crap out of it? The same goes today. I think "medical pot" is a joke and the reason I say that it is because you can have a "hangnail" and get a script! We have a justice system busting at the seams with people sitting in jail because of pot.I'm not a Bible-banger but, God has a number for us,whether we die from smoking or getting hit by a bus.Why aren't you promoting getting rid of alcohol,you know the stuff DUI are made of or how about that liver!If you have a list of know deaths just from smoking pot,I would like to see that first.People are people, and people are going to do what people do,even smoking pot!

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DocWoody

Feb-09-14 10:04 AM

Addendum: Many many people have smoked Pot for eons without any apparent ill effects. I have met brilliant people who smoke daily. The human body is unique to each person. If you look at it in terms of Coffee, one cup will send one person through the roof, and 4 cups another could fall asleep. Human metabolism varies from person to person. You could take 2 teenagers both pot heads one could become a Doctor and the other a couch potato. Definitely Pot had 'something' to do with it but also one's own motivation and goals, peers, etc. There is the tolerance factor which one can inherit. You can take two 12 yr olds who've never tasted alcohol. Give them each a beer one would drink part of it, get wasted and throw up the other might drink the whole thing and get up walk away. The second child already has tolerance means potential for addiction but may choose a different path OR may become addicted to video games, work, gambling, food, or nothing at all. There are no absolutes!!

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DocWoody

Feb-09-14 9:51 AM

MERCURY2 - I am a Substance Abuse/Mental Health Professional for 35+ years. I've worked with the best Epidemiologists in the country as well as DEA and Law Enforcement. Legalizing Pot is ALL about $$ for government. Prohibition started by the Temperance movement of women who were tired of abuse from alcoholic spouses before there was any real research on alcohol. Prohibition didn't work and the Govt needed $$ so it became legal. Alcohol/Rx Drugs/Cigarettes have killed phenomenal numbers of people yet remain legal. They remain legal the same way it's legal to sell Drano. We (the govt) will tax the*****out of it and the store will be happy to take your $$, give the govt their share and place the WHOLE ENTIRE responsibility on you WHAT you do with it once in your possession. It's all about $$$ bottom line. We'll take your $$ and what ever happens to you is ON you. Pot is just another $$ making scheme for the govt to make $$$. It's THAT simple. They don't give a crap only about $$$ !!!

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MECURY2

Feb-08-14 1:52 PM

Dr.USABorn:"How does marijuana affect a user's life?" You forgot the two most important points,one,it makes you become a democrat and two, it makes your comments even funnier! "Calling Dr.Fine,Dr.Howard,Dr.USABorn"!

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MECURY2

Feb-08-14 12:25 PM

USABorn: "Is marijuana addictive?" Do you have any studies on "ALCOHOL" or "PRESCRIPTION DRUGS" you know the "LEGAL" stuff? You know how studies go, one day eggs are bad for you and a month later,eggs are good for you??!! I read somewhere a while back,not sure if it's true but, everyone is addicted to something whether it's pot or writing "off the wall" comments, doctor.

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MECURY2

Feb-08-14 12:08 PM

DocWoody: I will agree, MrShaman does have a lot of information but, that doesn't mean he's wrong. By the way, what medical field are you a doctor in? If you are a doctor I will respect your comments and your information but, don't tell me you read it somewhere. Remember, don't "throw stones at glass house" because there might be pot growing inside.That might be a little lame on that one but,I have plenty of "characters" left!

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MrShaman

Feb-08-14 12:07 PM

MR SHAMAN - You're quoting a study from 1972??? The very FIRST substance abuse survey in public schools was 1972!!! Research has come a looooong way since then. I don't know why you post here on a multitude of subjects you obviously know very little about. Some of the people that post here are Professionals in the fields they are commenting on. What FIELD OF STUDY is your EXPERTISE IN??" - DocWoody

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Personal-experience, since the Summer o' '68.

What've YOU got, "cherrie"??

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MECURY2

Feb-08-14 11:59 AM

Dr.USABorn: Doctor, That really clears things up, you got your information from a "government site"? I have to admit back in day starting in Vietnam and continue useing it for around 28 years and in that 28 years raised two children (neither had two heads when born) and turned out just fine. Always had a job and now retired with no criminal record. Quit useing it because of the increase in price,I'm not going to make people with suits and ties rich on my dime! If they do legalize it, happy days are here again and become a 65 year old "hippie"! "Peace brother or should I say,Doctor"!

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DocWoody

Feb-08-14 9:36 AM

MR SHAMAN - You're quoting a study from 1972??? The very FIRST substance abuse survey in public schools was 1972!!! Research has come a looooong way since then. I don't know why you post here on a multitude of subjects you obviously know very little about. Some of the people that post here are Professionals in the fields they are commenting on. What FIELD OF STUDY is your EXPERTISE IN?? Please post so we can ignore your posts and only read them on RELEVANT postings!! Thanks although your ignorance is mighty entertaining reading.

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DocWoody

Feb-08-14 9:29 AM

MrShaman: Go to SAMHSA.gov or CSAP.gov. No one has mentioned that the human brain doesn't completely mature until about 25. If you start putting nicotine, pot, alcohol, etc. into a teenage brain it's unknown the long term effect as it's still developing. Using these drugs alters the natural development. Research has known for years the younger you are starting the higher the likelihood of addiction.The first drug people use is typically cigarettes. Nicotine being THE most addictive drug that far surpasses hero, crack, meth, etc. thus those receptors in the brain have become awakened as it were.Once addicted to anything switching to another substance is easy.Pot can be physically and psychologically addicting as any long time user will have withdrawal symptoms if they stop. Legalization is about $$$ it is not about health 'safety'. Alcohol is incredibly UNSAFE yet legal. The responsibility is on the consumer. We'll take your $$ but what you do with it is on you! They sell Drano too!!

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USABorn

Feb-08-14 2:53 AM

MECURY2-10:30 AM

"USABorn: Has anybody seen Dr.USABorn?"

Sorry you have problems reading. I attributed the info from a government site. Apparently the use of marijuana is already affecting you mentally.

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MECURY2

Feb-07-14 7:35 PM

USABorn:"Marijuana affects a user's life". Have you ever heard of this product out there they call "ALCOHOL"and it's LEGAL?

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MECURY2

Feb-07-14 7:29 PM

USABorn: My suggestion to you is, if you never tried it stop running your mouth. Remember when mom said, try it (your peas)you might like it! Have any peas lately?

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MECURY2

Feb-07-14 7:22 PM

MrShaman: Sorry, I have to agree with USABorn, smoking anything and the same goes with alcohol or anything that is not a normal intake into the body should be used. Pregnancy is a serious matter in life and should be taken that way. The word for this is "commonsense".

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MECURY2

Feb-07-14 7:11 PM

JohnZook: First off John,everybody already knows the pot today is a lot stronger than the "60s. Back then pot had about 2% THC,today it's as "high" as 28% but, if you want it to be an addiction you can go ahead and call it that just like alcohol and there is no middle ground, either your addicted or not. Not everyone that drinks alcohol is an alcoholic and the same goes with pot."H", bathsalts,synthetic pot besides making you "high"also makes you crazy and we are both on the same page when it comes to these drugs but, I have never meet a violent person on pot,all they want to do is eat,drink and be merry?

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JohnZook

Feb-07-14 3:11 PM

Guys, you childish responses to USA reflect your usual attitudes on this comment section. There is proof (no, look it up yourselves and not on YouTube Sham) via the CDC that the amount of THC in the grass is much higher and addictive today.

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MrShaman

Feb-07-14 12:18 PM

USABorn: Has anybody seen Dr.USABorn?" - MECURY2

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It does appear "Dr.USABorn's Medicine Show" HAS rolled-into-town!!!

(Careful. His "magic"-elixir is 92% alcohol.)

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MrShaman

Feb-07-14 12:11 PM

"Marijuana use during pregnancy is associated with increased risk of neurobehavioral problems in babies." - USABorn

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Yeah...that'd be BOGUS CLAIM #7

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See:

Erowid Cannabis Vault : Exposing Marijuana Myths

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MrShaman

Feb-07-14 12:08 PM

"Here are some facts from non-pharma studies. Smoked marijuana contains 600 chemicals being inhaled. 400 are known carcinogens." - DocWoody

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Gee...no TITLES for those "studies"???

How "unfortunate"...and, convenient, at the same time.

Sounds like one o' Bill Bennett's efforts. (...Daddy Bush's Drug CZAR & all-around fundamentalist-nutjob)

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