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The real worry

February 6, 2014

A marijuana ring was just busted in Williamsport. Thirteen individuals are now known as drug traffickers....

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z3932z

Feb-06-14 1:03 AM

First, they aren't innocent. For the time being, what they have been accused of doing is illegal. Just because "legalization is coming" doesn't mean it is presently legal. It is still a crime and they're idiots for doing what they did and deserve prosecution. Second, alcohol and tobacco may be more harmful, but that doesn't mean marijuana is safe. All three are harmful to some degree. Third, medicinal marijuana is prescribed and regulated. These drug traffickers were not involved in this process; they were trafficking it for recreational use, which is again illegal in this state. Fourth, it isn't "some weed" police are worried about. Most ****** users typically don't start with ****** as their first drug. Usually they are exposed to ****** via a "gateway" drug, commonly a drug known as... marijuana.

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z3932z

Feb-06-14 1:03 AM

Finally, there is a drug epidemic locally and nationally among 20-25+ year olds, going beyond "just weed" and ******. The drug traffickers who were arrested are in this age demographic, potentially enabling their customers (who are of the same age and younger) into taking harder drugs like ******. That is what the real worry is about, Johnny.

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z3932z

Feb-06-14 1:05 AM

****** = hero in (one word)

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AmericanCitizen

Feb-06-14 5:18 AM

Outlawing MJ is a ridiculous waste of my tax dollars. Pa. won't act anytime soon but sooner or later the legislature is going to look around at the other states legalizing it and the tax money they're raking in and say, "What are we, idiots?"

And you want to know what the most common "gateway drug" is? Its legal, they advertise everywhere, even during the Super Bowl. I believe they were using Clydesdales and a puppy that time.

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fromtheport

Feb-06-14 5:37 AM

We should jump on the bandwagon legalize mj,*****all the tax money we can off of it, and save money by not holding all these people in prison. The savings from reduction in prison population alone could eliminate school taxes.

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fromtheport

Feb-06-14 5:38 AM

Comeon sg you bleep out s u c k

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Capricorn1

Feb-06-14 5:40 AM

While I don't agree with everything that the letter writer states, I do think they spend an enormous amount of money, time and resources the "war" on marijuana when it could be used trying to combat the distribution and use of much more dangerous drugs. There is no evidence to suggest that marijuana is a gateway drug. In fact, there is evidence that points to prescription drugs such as opiate pain killers that lead to the use of harder drugs such as her oin. The mistake they made in their "war" on drugs, is for years they ignored the epidemic that was forming from the abuse and addition to prescription drugs until it was too late. Like it or not, legalization of marijuana is right around the corner and it will be expedited once states see the cash cow it creates in tax dollars in states that have already taken that step.

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CarlHiller

Feb-06-14 5:51 AM

Marijuana does not cause people to use hard drugs. That is a total myth. For the vast majority of people who use p o t, it is the end-point rather than the gateway. Fewer than 10 percent of those who try marijuana ever meet the clinical criteria for dependence, while 32 percent of tobacco users and 15 percent of alcohol users do. Cannabis sativa was used as an herbal remedy for centuries in China, the Middle East, and Asia. The AMA argued against marijuana prohibition in the 1930's, citing its therapeutic potential. But the newly founded Federal Bureau of Narcotics made its case that marijuana was "dangerous for the mind and the body," and the federal government outlawed its use in 1937. The hemp plant has many uses. Henry Ford constructed a car with certain components made of resin stiffened with hemp fiber which were nearly indestructible. Cloth made from hemp is more durable than wool, cotton or any of the man made materials. Hemp makes the best insulating material for h

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ToTEXASfromPA

Feb-06-14 6:15 AM

"If someone wants to stay in their home and destroy themselves like Phillip Seymore Hoffman let 'em!"

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But they (users whether alcohol, MJ, her.oin, prescription drug users/abusers) don't stay home and only impact themselves. They get out and sometimes impact others or in the case of a family don't provide adequate care (economically or lovingly) to the family.

It will be interesting to see the impacts and studies of the first five years of legalized use in CO and WA. I will suspect the economic benefits will be touted while negative consequences will be ignored.

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Spigotz

Feb-06-14 6:16 AM

In a couple of years those proponents of legalizing pot will do the same for ******. However, point taken about tobacco and alcohol -ban them, too, if you're gonna compare apples to apples.

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MrShaman

Feb-06-14 6:33 AM

"A marijuana ring was just busted in Williamsport. Thirteen individuals are now known as drug traffickers. Shouldn't the police be more worried about the ****** epidemic that is ongoing in Williamsport?" - Johnny Gibs

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Surely, you jest!! Even the "pros" (i.e. the DEA) admit they'd MUCH prefer dealing-with/busting Pot dealers, because...due to the smaller profit-margin...they're MUCH LESS dangerous than the folks dealing in hard-core drugs!!!

Why (ELSE...well, besides the job-security issue) do you think the DEA is so biased, AGAINST marijuana-legalization?

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JohnFoote

Feb-06-14 6:37 AM

I agree with Johnny, our state spends well in excess of $300,000,000 a year on trying to fight the war on MJ and it hasn't slowed it down one bit since these laws were passed in 1936 with the scare tactics of the Reefer Madness days(which is now a film that is listed in the comedy section on NETFLIX). A student who gets caught with any amount of MJ loses all funding for a ten year period. I have witnessed people that I know who got caught for possession 40 years ago who still have a felony record, how ridiculous is that to ruin someones life over a joint? There is one candidate who is running for governor who wants to right these wrongs and is the leader on MJ reform in Pa. John Hanger will be here on March 6th @ Jeremiahs above the Bullfrog brewery to answer questions and talk to people about his plans to improve our state in more ways than this one subject. When alcohol prohibition ended so did most of the violence caused by prohibition and the same will happen with MJ.

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MrShaman

Feb-06-14 6:42 AM

"First, they aren't innocent. For the time being, what they have been accused of doing is illegal. Just because "legalization is coming" doesn't mean it is presently legal. It is still a crime and they're idiots for doing what they did and deserve prosecution. Second, alcohol and tobacco may be more harmful, but that doesn't mean marijuana is safe." - z3932z

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You DARE criticize the opinion of a Pennsylvania/Republican GOVERNOR??!!!

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"Considering the range of social concerns in contemporary America, marihuana does not, in our considered judgment, rank very high. We would deemphasize marihuana as a problem." - Raymond P. Shafer, 1972

See:

Marihuana, A Signal of Misunderstanding - Table of Contents

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MrShaman

Feb-06-14 6:50 AM

"Finally, there is a drug epidemic locally and nationally among 20-25+ year olds, going beyond "just weed" and H. The drug traffickers who were arrested are in this age demographic, potentially enabling their customers (who are of the same age and younger) into taking harder drugs like H. That is what the real worry is about, Johnny." - z3932z

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What you've just described is THE reason for legalizing/regulating marijuana.

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MrShaman

Feb-06-14 6:58 AM

"The mistake they made in their "war" on drugs, is for years they ignored the epidemic that was forming from the abuse and addition to prescription drugs until it was too late." - Capricorn1

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Dick Nixon was a "LITTLE"-more concerned about addicted-vets, (already) coming home, from 'Nam. Catching Pot-users (in their "net") was merely "icing, on the cake", in their opinion.

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idiottwo

Feb-06-14 7:04 AM

"more worried?" You must be quite a mind reader. The police are worried about both and I would venture to say far more worried about ******, but because you are worried about one more than the other, it doesn’t mean you look the other way. Any drug dealers must be dealt with to the full extent. They should not feel comfortable in what they are doing. Nor should the user. And grass can be laced with a number of things making it very dangerous too.

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MrShaman

Feb-06-14 7:06 AM

"The war on drugs has already officially been declared a failure. If someone wants to stay in their home and destroy themselves like Phillip Seymore Hoffman let 'em! If their not satisfied with with some weed after winning an Oscar let's not feel bad for wealthy actors who throw their lives away." - Yoxtheimer

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You Teabaggers are (always) so "eloquent"/"informed", when stating your (limited) opinions....

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See:

Opinion: My Mother's Addiction Comes From Pain - CNN

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eriklatranyi

Feb-06-14 7:12 AM

So, am I supposed to believe that a marijuana dealer only sells marijuana?

Could a marijuana dealer also sell hero-in?

Could a marijuana dealer work for someone who distributes hero-in?

These are not innocent cherubs....see what happens if you rip them off.

If PA decides to legalize marijuana sales, these will not be the friendly clerks in your local store.

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enigma

Feb-06-14 7:29 AM

Spoken like a true stoner. I've heard the "pot's not harmful" argument hundreds of times and always from a stoner. Studies show that marijuana impairs cognitive abilities (for you stoners, it makes you stupid). I don't have a problem with legalizing any of these drugs as long as part of that law contains language that prohibits the use of any tax dollars to care for these idiots after they fry their brains. As long as I have to pay for the result, I say keep it illegal.

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Steelman

Feb-06-14 7:37 AM

Could a marijuana dealer also sell hero-in?

Could a marijuana dealer work for someone who distributes hero-in?

They are sell H erion in happy meals for crying out loud. I don't think it is limited to dealers.

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CMReeder

Feb-06-14 7:46 AM

It doesn't matter if other states have legalized it, drug dealing is still against the law. I do not have pity for those who knowingly break the law.

You work to change the law not to defy and break it.

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enigma

Feb-06-14 7:58 AM

One thing the writer fails to notice is that it is the job of the police to enforce the laws and not to pick and choose which laws to enforce. As long as marijuana is illegal, it is their duty to arrest those selling and using it. If the legislature legalizes it, then the police can stop making arrests, but not until. I want the police to do their job. I've been critical of them in the case of the crash and LL pin case, but when they do their job correctly, I will support them. This is one of the few times I agree with Chuck. If you don't want to be arrested for using pot, work to change the law, don't break it.

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Zippie

Feb-06-14 8:13 AM

Just like the wrecking ball gal twerked on stage, reports in the news show and admit that todays "weed" has been twerked up to 700% more powerful then the 60's and 70's.

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Newberry22

Feb-06-14 8:26 AM

Ask the kid who was selling marijuana several years ago on Vine Ave if he thinks there is a problem with weed dealers. Oh that's right you can't because he was shot in the face and killed by another marijuana dealer because he was taking his business

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MrShaman

Feb-06-14 8:37 AM

"Marijuana does not cause people to use hard drugs." - CarlHiller

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To be MORE specific...drugs (much LIKE guns...or, any OTHER inanimate-object/substance) don't "cause" ANYone to do ANYthing.

Drugs...much like guns...are only as dangerous as they're used.

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