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February 9, 2014

The public needs to know the real facts behind the political battles raging in Harrisburg....

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Doobio24

Feb-10-14 8:05 PM

I usually support freedom of speech. But will someone please take CMreeder's id away. The comments are pointless. Unions only benefit poor performers and secure wages that are way too high for the task performed. Supply and demand drives wages. Top performers that exceed standards drive wages. Free enterprise does not guarentee wealth. But apparently unions do.

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Scott36

Feb-10-14 9:02 AM

Then they feel they need a union because they don't trust that same government to pay them a fair wage-Capricorn1

I hope you realize that unions do a lot more than just negotiate wages. BTW- Do you see other groups that band together to fight for a larger voice as a problem?? e.g., OPEC, Chamber of Commerce, political parties & their offshoots, etc.-Just wondering-Scott

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eriklatranyi

Feb-09-14 10:16 PM

Public sector union are money laundering schemes for the DNC.

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ScottyDogg

Feb-09-14 1:49 PM

If the elimination of a $98,000 a year + middle class non producing Uniserve Rep job is eliminated by passage of this act, I will certainly join Deb and cry but mine will be tears of joy. Instead, the writer of the letter wants me to cry tears of sorrow when she should be upset that her (and mine since my tax $s pay her salary) wages are being wasted on such nonsense. Next, she will probably write a letter about how Corbett cut $1 Billion from education ... you know those FEDERAL Stimulus $'s that Uncle Ed dumped and gave to his union education cronies knowing full well it was one time money.

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ScottyDogg

Feb-09-14 1:41 PM

"Don't want to be part of a union don't apply for a union job. People knowingly accept a job in a union shop and then complain they have to pay dues."

Yeah, you would like that so only Liberals would work for the Government. Again, Reeder displays his stupidity. This has nothing to do with letting folks choose to join the Union, it has to do with us taxpayers collecting money for the machine to lobby against us.

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nobud74

Feb-09-14 11:55 AM

Cap, HAHAHAHAHA! Good one!

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Capricorn1

Feb-09-14 11:30 AM

I find it odd that many on the left place all their trust in big government and will stand by it at all cost, until it's time to draw a paycheck from them. Then they feel they need a union because they don't trust that same government to pay them a fair wage. Anyone see the hypocrisy in that?

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underwood

Feb-09-14 10:32 AM

So the radical right is fighting with the radical left; imagine that.

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USABorn

Feb-09-14 10:15 AM

Spoken like a true liberal Deb, with your union talking points!!!!!

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hopeforfuture

Feb-09-14 10:10 AM

CMReeder-I agree there are schools that are not union if a teacher likes to teach. Oh wait those jobs are private and mostly run by religious organizations. That would never do.

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gavinf56

Feb-09-14 9:44 AM

Maybe President Obama could introduce the Affordable Union Dues Act and promise everyone "if you like your union, you can keep your union". The union leadership would back it, but then look for an exemption once they found out how it would effect them. The left leaning posters on here would be praising it.

-*Note: written in the extreme sarcasm font.

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Premier

Feb-09-14 9:11 AM

Where is the party of "tolerance" tone in that statement Charles?

Your saying a person who would love to be a teacher, firefighter, police officer or nurse should not apply because of a union? Really?

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CMReeder

Feb-09-14 8:56 AM

Don't want to be part of a union don't apply for a union job. People knowingly accept a job in a union shop and then complain they have to pay dues.

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nobud74

Feb-09-14 8:53 AM

This letter casts a negative light on teachers as a whole, but this type of liberal stupidity is not the norm. Our teachers are, for the most part, hard working and caring. Yes, they are concerned with their wages and benefit packages just as anyone else is. It is the union that hurts their public image, not the work of the teachers.

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CarlHiller

Feb-09-14 8:21 AM

I am not against any union, I am against forced public and private union membership for the purpose of gaining or keeping a job and for forced contributions to a political agenda.

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CarlHiller

Feb-09-14 8:19 AM

ing lies like this. Public unions are nothing but a giant pig vacuuming money from the taxpayer purse. Many teachers do not want to support the unions political views, a politician whose views they may not support and political issues they oppose and should not be required by their forced donations to the unions to have their funds spent in that manner. The government unions are highly partisan political machines using forced contributions for a political agenda.

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CarlHiller

Feb-09-14 8:12 AM

not wish to make a donation, not have too. It is time to place a stranglehold on government unions ability to effect legislative agendas that literally cost taxpayers 11's of millions in taxes. What is going on is since Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker signed his collective bargaining reforms, Act 10, more than 100,000 union members have left Big Labor. Recently over 70 local unions failed their re-certification votes with over 5,500 employees walking out on their unions. Conservative estimates show that with members opting out of unions, around $60 million less will be flowing to unions in Wisconsin. This is the real reason. PA public union heads will no longer have the ability to pay union bosses 100's of thousands of dollars in wages. This has nothing to do with quality of education for children and everything to do with money. You want to fix the education system - get rid of the unions. You'll also get rid of teachers like the one who wrote this LTE, she shouldn't be teaching spou

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CarlHiller

Feb-09-14 8:04 AM

This is not even close to "the Real Story". Simply a leftist teacher spouting lies propagated by her union masters. PSEA spent over $3 million of its members’ dues on political activities and lobbying. The NEA, like PSEA, also gets its dues and fees collected by Pennsylvania taxpayer-financed payroll systems, contributed nearly $15 million to advocacy groups in 2011-12. PA being a forced-union state, one of 26 left in the nation. This is government forced unionization of employees, state workers, teachers, municipal employees, those who do not wish to join a union can be forced to forfeit a portion of their paychecks to a union as a condition of employment. There are literally thousands of government employees who do not wish to join the unions yet are required to pay up to 65% of union dues to stay employed. This is coercion, and it is wrong. Any change will not prohibit this "teacher" from making her required union contributions if she so desires, all it will d

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MensaMind

Feb-09-14 7:53 AM

What bothers me most is this uninformed teacher is shaping our future.

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andy33

Feb-09-14 7:46 AM

The teachers union has a stranglehold om EVERY district in this state...time for the governor to take them on!....it's the only way to get rid of the bad ones without interference from the powerful union and the only way to keep them from bankrupting every district in this state!!!!

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Premier

Feb-09-14 7:30 AM

The funny thing is the fact that they {the union members} cannot dictate which political party they want a portion of their dues sent to.

They talk about loosing rights and a voice but have no problem with being suppressed by the union. ODD!

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eriklatranyi

Feb-09-14 7:19 AM

Deb Kuhar thinks we are pretty stupid.

You see, she wants you to think that by removing the automatic deduction from her paycheck (that is chosen with a union boss over your shoulder) that she will no longer be able to contribute to the union.

THAT IS A LIE!!!

Yes, Deb Kuhar....you are a liar.

Teachers will still be able to launder (I mean donate) money to the unioh, they just must do it the same we us non-union people donate to causes....by the goodness of our hearts.

What Deb Kuhar (the liar) knows is that without automatic deductions, those donations will decrease dramatically when the rank and file really think about what they are supporting.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Feb-09-14 7:18 AM

Premier, thanks for the link.

At first I was not sure what the message was that this writer was trying to convey on voluntarily paying dues; it was like I was missing some information or history. I guess this LTE was written from the perspective of a teacher or union member and someone like me wouldn't understand what their message was. Now I can see it is a unified attempt to get their own way on something and slur some other groups. Maybe they ought to walk down the street with a basket in hand asking their neighbors for more money or take an ad on TV or in the papers.

In defense, there are good teachers that should be paid well but there are also some poor ones that ought to be taught themselves to get better or do something else.

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Ritty77

Feb-09-14 7:13 AM

"...the governor and his supporters in the General Assembly are now pushing bills that would prohibit me from making voluntary payroll deductions, and eliminate my right to choose which organizations I support."

Strong charges. Ideally, the writer would have provided the bill numbers or working titles of this legislation to support her charge.

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hopeforfuture

Feb-09-14 6:35 AM

Reading this letter is just more fodder for the lost respect that I have for teachers in general. Most teachers think more of the perks than they do about teaching.

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