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February 10, 2014

I am sorry to say that I can't remember all three robberies that happened in one week in Williamsport but I do remember the one at Pizza Hut....

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rmiller

Feb-11-14 7:07 PM

I have to admit, there is a vigilante spirit in me.....

Whatever happened to citizens' arrest?

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spike2

Feb-11-14 10:08 AM

I do agree with Cap on non-violent. Robbery with a knife is a violent crime.

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spike2

Feb-11-14 10:07 AM

Geez Enigma. That's why his lawyer will file a bail motion. In the meantime, do you even know if he has other convictions, warrants anything? the chances of running are greater with a felony coupled with an active addiction. The purpose of bail is not punishment but is meant to assure appearance in court. Do you even know the guidelines for robbery? Do you understand how prior record scores effect the sentencing exposure? My guess is no.

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coffee

Feb-10-14 6:23 PM

If we would start executing murders and child abusers we would have room for "non-violent offenders"!

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Ritty77

Feb-10-14 1:26 PM

"Criminals find that the potential reward of committing crime outweighs the potential punishment for it."

Correct. Many drug dealers view a few years in prison as par for the course in their business.

Longer sentences might change that somewhat, but the costs to taxpayers for these non-violent offenders is not worth it.

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Capricorn1

Feb-10-14 11:15 AM

Enigma, good post. Bail is not meant to be punitive. It is simply to ensure that the defendant will be present for future court appearances and all defendants have a right to a fair bail unless they are a flight risk or a further danger to society. We already have a problem with prison overcrowding locally, and setting high bails for defendants charged with nonviolent or less serious crimes when they know they have no means to pay it, serves no purpose.

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enigma

Feb-10-14 10:18 AM

"the Hughesville robbery bail was set at 1/2 a million, that seems high enough." - Spike2

It's not a problem of bail for the accused, it's a problem of sentences for the convicted. Outrageous bail is actually a violation of the Constitution, and it flies in the face of the innocent until proven guilty paradigm. We have judges that set bail too high and sentences too low. Once a person is proved guilty is the time to punish him, not while he's awaiting trial. IMO, violent criminals should never get probation, and a light sentence should only be given out in the event of extraordinary mitigating circumstances, but our system gives a slap on the wrist to most offenders. Criminals find that the potential reward of committing crime outweighs the potential punishment for it. Until we change that, crime rates will not go down.

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spike2

Feb-10-14 9:36 AM

the Hughesville robbery bail was set at 1/2 a million, that seems high enough.Neighborhood watches are good as long as people watch. Period. Cap has a great post! Remember, criminals can see you too. You can take a cell phone picture from inside your home.

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MrShaman

Feb-10-14 9:11 AM

"Opiate addictions and deaths are rising rapidly in the US." - eriklatranyi

*

....Another o' those "perks" of being at-War, where the source is so-readily-available; Afghanistan.

Those-of-you who are much-too-young to remember this (same) scenario, during 'Nam, really should check-out "American Gangster" [Wikipedia]. This movie is NO Sly-Stallone-style fantasy-flick.

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eriklatranyi

Feb-10-14 7:41 AM

Opiate addictions and deaths are rising rapidly in the US.

It is alarming to see the statistics.

I suggest many of you look into this yourselves and see what is being reported out there.

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Capricorn1

Feb-10-14 6:43 AM

Hope, if you live in a neighborhood where these transactions are taking place, use your cell phone and take pictures or video of what's happening and turn them over to the police. With cell phones it very easy to do without them even knowing it. We were able to do this in MD and it was used to start an investigation that led to arrests. We also had good success with Neighborhood Watch signs and signs stating the area is under video surveillance as a deterrent. Every little bit helps if everyone does their part. The problem is these people are bold about it now thinking they own the streets and no one will say or do anything.

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metalhead

Feb-10-14 6:40 AM

"Don't take any guff from those swine." - H.S.T.

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hopeforfuture

Feb-10-14 5:55 AM

But what can that actually do? If an individual sees a drug transaction will the police come and arrest the drug dealer? It would be great if we could arrest the drug dealers but we all know the dealer needs to be caught in the act but the drug 'user' is more likely to be caught in a robbery.

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eriklatranyi

Feb-10-14 5:23 AM

Those volunteering for the neighborhood watches are to be commended. They are not taking this recent drug epidemic lying down.

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