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With latest OK, it's time to approve Keystone pipeline

February 11, 2014

Enduring a grueling five-year review process that we are certain President Obama's pet energy initiatives don't have to endure, the Keystone XL Pipeline put another notch on its approval belt......

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nobud74

Feb-12-14 7:57 AM

Cap, in PA road contraction is not a temporary job. Just look at I80, it is under constant construction, look at our own piece of I180, same thing. But, nobody bats an eye at this because that is PennDot driven.

Yes, there will be temporary jobs and work for businesses, but the profits will be used to expand those businesses and maybe with the increase in revenues going through the economy because of the work then other businesses will be started and more people hired. These places don't spring up and fold because of a project. I have a friend who started with a couple of people locally in a gas related business. He now has over 200 working, they have expanded their market to surrounding states, treats his people very well and is looking to grow even more. Those people are doing well, they are driving our economy, that is how it works. Oh, BTW, he hasn't changed his lifestyle one bit as do most people who create jobs, they love the work and their people.

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 5:05 AM

"I'm at a loss how so many can speak out against the jobs, fearless how temporary they may be for this initiative, but when it came to the close to one trillion spent in 2009 in an attempt to create permanent jobs with little impact, they refuse to see the writing on the wall." - Capricorn1

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When it comes to job-LOSES...I'm at a loss how so many people have never heard...When Lil' Dumbya screws-up, he DOESN'T MESS-AROUND.

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See:

Obama Dismantles Republican Caucus Part 1 of 7 - YouTube

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Capricorn1

Feb-11-14 7:59 PM

Fearless should be regardless.. autocorrect s u c k s

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Capricorn1

Feb-11-14 7:58 PM

I'm at a loss how so many can speak out against the jobs, fearless how temporary they may be for this initiative, but when it came to the close to one trillion spent in 2009 in an attempt to create permanent jobs with little impact, they refuse to see the writing on the wall.

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MrShaman

Feb-11-14 2:59 PM

Bornhere, many of these jobs may be temporary, but so were the "shovel ready" jobs that were advertised as part of the stimulus package. It's the nature of construction or jobs like building roads and highways. Does that mean that these jobs are any less important? I'm sure if you speak to the people that would be doing these jobs if it mattered if they were only for a couple years, they would probably tell you it's par for the course and the nature of construction contracts. And like I said, there will also be a lot of money to go around for support services. I would not consider this a "con" regarding making the decision for this initiative." - Capricorn1

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It's gonna be extra-specially "interesting" to see how much of a boo$t, there'll be...to prices-at-the-pump...to FINANCE this pipeline!!

I can't believe those Houston-refineries are gonna pay for this con-job...er...construction-job, outta their OWN pockets.

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MrShaman

Feb-11-14 2:52 PM

Bornhere, you're leaving out the additional money funneled to the businesses to fabricate the material and tools to manufacturer, inspect and maintain the pipeline and all the logistics involved. It involves much more than just onsite construction. There would be many businesses that would be involved in this." - Capricorn1

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Yeah...short-term.

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Capricorn1

Feb-11-14 12:50 PM

Bornhere, many of these jobs may be temporary, but so were the "shovel ready" jobs that were advertised as part of the stimulus package. It's the nature of construction or jobs like building roads and highways. Does that mean that these jobs are any less important? I'm sure if you speak to the people that would be doing these jobs if it mattered if they were only for a couple years, they would probably tell you it's par for the course and the nature of construction contracts. And like I said, there will also be a lot of money to go around for support services. I would not consider this a "con" regarding making the decision for this initiative.

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BornHere

Feb-11-14 12:18 PM

Yes I did leave out 1 thing these jobs will last for 2 years or more, I do not consider that security for the American people.

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Scott36

Feb-11-14 11:53 AM

One of the largest concerns to me is the huge aquifer it would cross. IMO, if it were built above ground, at least leaks could be detected earlier, & easier to fix. This I'm sure would make it tougher to build, but without water life ceases.

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Capricorn1

Feb-11-14 11:33 AM

Bornhere, you're leaving out the additional money funneled to the businesses to fabricate the material and tools to manufacturer, inspect and maintain the pipeline and all the logistics involved. It involves much more than just onsite construction. There would be many businesses that would be involved in this.

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BornHere

Feb-11-14 9:36 AM

Hey rick, you're right too many facts might confuse someone, I'll stop for NOW!! LOL

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rick424

Feb-11-14 8:58 AM

Oh stop with the facts Bornhere. Now just stop that.

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BornHere

Feb-11-14 8:42 AM

The actual number of jobs created by the Keystone Pipeline.

35 PERMANENT jobs in maintenance and inspection.

3,900 TEMPORARY jobs to build the pipeline and that number comes from states that the pipeline will actually cross.

So how does this benefit other people who do not live in the states where the pipeline will cross, none.

The whole idea that this will create jobs all over the US is being used so they can build their pipeline to export the oil to foreign countries.

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MrShaman

Feb-11-14 8:21 AM

"Environmental Safeguarding?

Google, "The List of Pipeline Accidents in the 21st Century", it's a real eye opener." - BornHere

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...Or, better, yet....

See:

OIL: Pegasus pipeline rupture in Mayflower, Arkansas. - YouTube

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BornHere

Feb-11-14 7:41 AM

Environmental Safeguarding?

Google, "The List of Pipeline Accidents in the 21st Century", it's a real eye opener.

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hopeforfuture

Feb-11-14 7:12 AM

This administration is not for the people and anything that would create jobs. Except for the crony supporters of this president.

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rick424

Feb-11-14 6:47 AM

I don't think so.

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MrShaman

Feb-11-14 5:06 AM

"While the opponents are busy predicting civil disobedience and other methods to block the pipeline from operating in America, Canada has this incredible source of energy that will be shipped elsewhere if America doesn't want it."

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Gee...whatta "great" lil' sideways-admission that the oil's (always) been destined for China, anyhow....after the Texas-refineries get THEIR "piece o' the action"...first...of course.

This lil' exercise would make as much "sense" as diverting all luggage, from LAX...to Lima, Ohio...for eventual-distribution.

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