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For Carson

February 11, 2014

I saw on the Editorial Page a column by Dr. Ben S. Carson. A committee has been formed that is trying to convince Dr. Carson that our country desperately needs someone like him as our next presiden....

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leaningright

Feb-13-14 8:12 AM

We can't allow Hillary to win the office so if Dr. Ben Carson can win then lets run him. At least he has a brain and some common sense and I agree, I think he would do what is right for the people, not for politics.

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spike2

Feb-12-14 3:44 PM

farmer - it's not shallow or insensitive. Sometimes the truth is cold. I am within 10 years of relevance. Facts are what they are. The world and the future thereof belongs to those younger than us.Most who post are between 57 and 80.

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Scott36

Feb-12-14 1:45 PM

Scott, honest opinion please... replace "her" in your comment and replace it with Joe Biden and tell me if your feelings change.-Capricorn1

This man has spent a large part of his life in Washington, & was a very successful Senator.(elected because a whole lot of people liked his way of representing them) He is known for verbal gaffs, if that is all you have to detract from him(aside from disagreeing with his political stance) I would be comfortable with him at the helm. Now, I answered with my reasons, will you do likewise regarding "her"??-Scott

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Scott36

Feb-12-14 1:39 PM

I find it difficult to support either of them as the most powerful figure in the free world. Sorry.-Capricorn1

BUT one is the most powerful figure in the free world. I vividly remember being called "unpatriotic, un-American, terrorist lover, etc." for even having the "gall" to disagree with "W" regarding the Iraq war. AM radio hosts felt a person such as myself were seriously boarding on treason for not supporting out leader in "a time of war". Now that a Dem. is in the WH, ALL of those thoughts have reversed. Like it or not--to be honest, that is the way it was,& is.-Scott

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Scott36

Feb-12-14 1:30 PM

This thinking would suggest instead of waterboarding, you should have no problem with the U.S. killing anyone that they believed aided our enemies-Capricorn1

I would be happy to discuss both of these scenarios. But to compare them in a type of "straw man/apples &oranges" achieves nothing. IMO, one(drone strikes) is attacking in a "war type" setting, the other is a malicious, immoral infliction of torment upon a human being.-Scott

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Scott36

Feb-12-14 1:21 PM

There's nothing good about preemptive-striking...because some other Country MIGHT attack us.-MrShaman

You probably point out the best frame of mind for this "doctrine". Too much room for error, with too much at stake.-Scott

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 1:12 PM

Scott, regarding preemptive strikes..-Capricorn1

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First off, I do not "fish", I was brought up to face things head on. My opinion of "preemptive strikes" is mixed, it is good if used in an adult fashion--BUT if used in the wrong way it is very costly, dangerous, & quite likely a waste of many lives. I personally believe that this is what happened with Iraq." - Scott

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There's nothing good about preemptive-striking...because some other Country MIGHT attack us. That only makes us a big target for every OTHER Country...like the whole 9/11 attack.

Iraq, to me, simply looked like the Chickenhawks were sooooo anxious to prove they were AS "bad" as the dudes who (actually) saw combat, in 'Nam. They assumed Iraq was gonna be a "push-over".

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See:

60 Minutes: George W. Bush Sought to -Find A Way- to Invade Iraq - YouTube

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EXPOSED: Bush Planned on Invading Iraq Before 9/11-Part 2 - YouTube

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farmer

Feb-12-14 12:10 PM

cap, "it's hard to accept when you are becoming irrelevant." spike

I agreed with most of what you said, but you lost my respect with this shallow insensitive statement.

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 11:44 AM

"Gee, a perfect storm for the Democrats. A person who doesn't desire power and a black man with intelligence." - rmiller

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Sorry. As usual...we've already covered that "base". Next, we'll be putting-up the first female-President....and, after that, the first-Hispanic, in 2024.

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 11:18 AM

"Yea, absolutely no sound bites from the Right on these posts. BTW, I saw "The Bush Doctrine" brought up earlier on these posts. What(as a former service man) do you think of this policy?-Scott

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"I'm assuming that's the only statement you disagreed with in my comment since you zeroed in on it. And yes, both sides of the aisle have their share of sound bites. Sorry, if I left anyone out. WRT "The Bush Doctrine", seeing as this coined term means many different things to different people, I'll address my opinion as it refers to the right of the United States to secure itself from countries that harbor or give aid to terrorism..." - Capricorn1

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No...it's still called PREEMPTIVE STRIKING.

Here...let "Charlie" educate you...like he did Snookie.

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See:

Sarah Palin Holds Forth on Bush Doctrine, Pakistan - YouTube

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 10:57 AM

"Palin did nicely on destroying herself. She really did not need much help." - rick424

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THAT'S for sure!!!!!!

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See:

Brutally honest interview with Steve Schmidt - Palin "is filled with anger, has a divisive message" - YouTube

&

Sara Palin's WTF Moments - YouTube

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spike2

Feb-12-14 10:49 AM

Cap - what he had going was being the polar opposite of GWB and the R party. People were tired of the wars, people wanted things to change, people were Bush family weary (which I see as a Clinton problem), young people voted and frankly they reject the world the older voters think is the way it should be. Younger people are fine with immigration, fine with gay marriage, fine with trying to change relations with countries their grandparents decided were evil and reject the involvement with some who their grandparents support. I think this is what most who post forget, you are only a major voting block for another 5-10 years. You have to stop telling the under 40's what they want and let them decide.The more the older voters rant, rave and say who is acceptable for moral or religious reasons and other sundry differences, the more guaranteed the loss. it's hard to accept when you are becoming irrelevant.

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 10:48 AM

Yeah...sure...he's got quite the "resumé"!!.........MrShaman

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didn't know you needed a background, I thought all it took was ‘I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone’ - Steelman

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No...some kind of background is required...even if it's (merely) a "made-up" background.

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See:

Worldandnation: Bush built success on Harken sale

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spike2

Feb-12-14 10:41 AM

rmiller- it has nothing to do with kickback. Cain and Carson can not win an election. It is what it is. #2 evangelicals will want to pick the candidate and if they do so then they lose. i'm fairly sure your experience with black men is fairly limited, whether intelligent or losers. I see you more as a Michelle and Marcus Bachman type. Am I wrong?

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 10:38 AM

"What disappoints me is the left wing on this board is actually celebrating the lawlessness of this Administration; just so they can "get back" at the Republicans." - JohnZook

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"get back" at the Republicans."???????

We've ALREADY jettisoned a Republican from the Oval Office.

Ever SINCE then, it's been REPUBLICANS who've been trying to get "pay-back"...to satisfy their infantile/sophomoric-need for "revenge".

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 10:29 AM

"It looks like he is campaigning. He told a group the left wants to transform the U.S. into the next Nazi state. That's the way to win over undecided voters." - johnnyad3

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...ESPECIALLY the Porky Limbaugh fans!!!!!

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"Rush said that he though most people are incredibly gullible, and he felt that the key to radio programming was to reach that crowd, and that it would be really, really easy. He thought he thought he could get anyone to believe anything he said, and the more outrageous is was, the more they would believe it."

See:

Friends of Liberty - ST. LOUIS MAN CLAIMS RUSH LIMBAUGH

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 10:24 AM

"Carson is a brilliant physician. Cain was very successful in pizza. This guy is a non-starter. He can't survive the primaries." -Spike

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"Spike, what exactly did Obama have going for him?" - Capricorn1

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More than Republicans could tolerate...when they TRIED to ambush him...and, got their BACKSIDES handed-to-themselves!!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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See:

Obama Dismantles Republican Caucus Part 1 of 7 - YouTube

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 10:17 AM

"Carson has said he is not a member of any political party. "If I were part of one, it would be called the 'Logic party', and it would be dedicated to commonsense approaches we all should be able to see."

As an Independent, this is someone I will definitely watch and study." - Capricorn1

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You're (actually) admitting that?????

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See:

Ben Carson Suggests Progressives Could Turn US Into Nazi Germany

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 10:09 AM

"Two really strong women.."

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"Yeah right, Hillary wouldn't be where she is if it wasn't for Little Willy." - GoBB62

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You PROMISE to keep thinking, that????

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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See:

For Love of Politics: Bill and Hillary Clinton: The White House Years, by Sally Bedell Smith

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 10:02 AM

"This is going to be a great 2016 primary. Load up the clown car! Don't rush, plenty of room for everybody!" - NEPA92

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...But, don't HESITATE!!! Butchie Preibus has (already) suggested he wants a smaller-model/head-count, for 2016.

To-date.....

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See:

Herman Cain Might Rejoin the GOP Clown-Car in 2016 | Crooks and Liars

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 9:57 AM

"Sham, his resume is much longer and better than our current dictator." - Darlin

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Yeah...if you want a doctor.

What're his plans for straightening-out the fee-variations, in U.S. hospitals????

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See:

Hospital Charges Vary Across U.S. for Same Procedures - Bloomberg

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 9:53 AM

"Ben Carson is a respectable intelligent man who would make this country work again, bring jobs and prosperity..." - Darlin

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With all of your "psychic-skills"...how is it you "conservatives" keep serving-up throw-away Presidential-candidates??!!!!

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 9:48 AM

"But you miss the big point of the letter, which is that we need someone who wants to serve the people and is not beholden to a party. That is a very good point. In order to find such a person, you will have to look to someone with no political experience..." - enigma

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I'm thinkin' you folks have already played that "card".

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"Once, while Sarah was preparing for a city-council meeting, she said,..."I’m gonna put on one of my push-up bras so I can get what I want tonight."...That’s how she rolls.”

See:

Sarah Palin: The Sound and the Fury | Vanity Fair

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 9:40 AM

"Now we want our Presidents to have experience?" - Steelman

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It's quite possible we HAVE learned, from....

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"His business career was marked by mediocrity or failure which nonetheless resulted in him getting lots of money from his father's political allies. And his political career has been handed to him on a platter by his famous name, and by his dad's cronies."

See:

George W. Bush, Jr. - The Dark Side

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MrShaman

Feb-12-14 9:34 AM

"All you need is the media in your corner and anything is possible." - Premier

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...As-opposed-to a new (2010) herd o' pro-gridlock Teabaggers, in The House, when NOTHING is possible.

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