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The rich and jobs

February 16, 2014

A gentleman recently commented on a article of mine: “rich people and businesses don't create jobs, consumer demand creates jobs....

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Scott36

Feb-18-14 1:35 PM

BTW Cheyenne, I know that it would not guarantee lower prices, anymore than higher wages guarantee higher prices, it is my belief that other factors dictate prices.-Scott

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Scott36

Feb-18-14 1:32 PM

Cheyenne,

It appeared to me that you were suggesting that higher pay equates to higher prices. So it would seem logical(by your& others reasoning) that lower wages would result in lower prices.-Scott

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cheyenne

Feb-17-14 5:40 PM

Scott, are you suggesting that employers would just take the cut in their profits and not compensate for it somehow? Wishful thinking but not very realistic.

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Scott36

Feb-17-14 1:31 PM

Cheyenne,

That is the same argument I have been hearing on fox news, and the radio for decades. Fact is, prices go up anyway. Are you suggesting that if minimum wage were dropped, that prices would go down??_Scott

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CMReeder

Feb-17-14 1:24 AM

Where in the constitution does it say we have to have a certain type of economic system? Where in the constitution does it say that people can not lobby the government?

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CMReeder

Feb-17-14 1:20 AM

Very good enigma and I was correct about you.

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cheyenne

Feb-16-14 9:09 PM

Scott, of course $10/hr. provides more to spend than $7/hr. does. The question is, if forcing the higher wage causes the price of goods and services to increase accordingly, how is that person going to be any further ahead financially?

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Scott36

Feb-16-14 8:52 PM

Mr. Underwood,

I agree with part of your 8:01 post. Yes favors are granted, honestly I do not think it is possible under any Gov. to put a stop to it. WHERE did I say that the Constitution is not the law of the land???? I merely asked which version of it in history you favor. You take too much liberty in trying to interpret(twist) others words. Yes I do favor certain Gov. regulations--would you like giant monopolies???? Would you like no regulations so water could be polluted with chemicals, etc.?? These are fairly straight forward questions.(at least I believe so, correct me if I am mistaken) Just curious--Be Safe,-Scott

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underwood

Feb-16-14 8:01 PM

Scott36, at least you’re honest enough to admit you don’t believe the Constitution should be the law of the land.

The cronyism you detest is only possible because politicians are able to grant favors to some at the expense of others. Of course you probably believe the answer is to give government even more power to regulate the economy.

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gavinf56

Feb-16-14 7:07 PM

"Just more deflection. So you feel that people making 25cents an hour would be good for businesses????" - Scott36

Just more of the same. Avoidance and deflection.

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Scott36

Feb-16-14 7:00 PM

. Production and consumption are best left to the private sector.-enigma

Government should stay out of just about everything?? What shape do you think our environment would be in??? Just one example.

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Scott36

Feb-16-14 6:57 PM

Why not just give them $25 then?-Gavinf56

Just more deflection. So you feel that people making 25cents an hour would be good for businesses????

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Scott36

Feb-16-14 6:55 PM

Scott36, read the Constitution and other founding documents and you’ll find the kind of government that most of us will strongly support,...-underwood

Which Constitution? The original(where women, etc. could not vote) This country is what it is. I sometimes think that if it were written by todays conservatives/tea party.. It would read--We the Companies, in order to form a more perfect Corporation. Seriously, If the government only went so far as to be in charge of the interstate infrastructure, & grid(funny you happen to be in favor of all people paying what is good for businesses, but seem to stop there) In what shape do you think this country would be in??? Monopolies & all just to mention one.-Scott

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underwood

Feb-16-14 3:32 PM

Scott36, read the Constitution and other founding documents and you’ll find the kind of government that most of us will strongly support, as Enigma stated. I’ll go a bit further than some and give government the interstate infrastructure, including the grid. All government functions should be done at the lowest level possible, with the federal government only having a function in matters that are interstate and that deal with foreign governments.

When government interferes and sets income levels it has negative results for the economy as a whole and changes nothing in a persons spending ability since the increased wages will be reflected in the cost of goods and services.

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enigma

Feb-16-14 2:09 PM

"You still need bridges, schools, dams, etc." - Scott36

This is a red herring that liberals love to throw out, but no one is claiming that government has no roll, only that it has taken on rolls that it should not. If I agree that it is OK for government to build roads, do I must then have to agree that it is OK for government control healthcare? If a agree that the government must have a military for the defense of the country, must I then agree that the government must have huge bureaucracies to give money away? Do I have to agree to a tax system so complicated that not even the IRS understands it? So stop with the platitudes and let's get to the point. The government is terrible at managing the economy and should stay out of it as much as possible. Production and consumption are best left to the private sector.

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gavinf56

Feb-16-14 2:05 PM

"Can a person spend more when making $7/hr. or $10/hr.??" - Scott36

Why not just give them $25 then?

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Scott36

Feb-16-14 1:42 PM

Mr. Underwood,

You still need bridges, schools, dams, etc. You are correct regarding a strong economy. To support a strong economy, do we not need people to spend?? Can a person spend more when making $7/hr. or $10/hr.?? Next, why this distain for our government?(yes it has its downfalls) What form of government would you prefer??-Scott

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enigma

Feb-16-14 1:32 PM

"You owe Kelaine an apology enigma and I owe you none. Your inaction here proved me right about you." - Chuck

Gee Chuck, I hadn't read any of the comments until just now. I made a comment on the letter, but on Sunday morning, I am a little busy with more important matters. Now that I've read the post in question, I will say that it was unnecessary, and does impugn your credibility without cause, so here you go. GoBB62, In the future, try not to be so Chuck-like and keep you comments substantive.

There, better? Now can we get back to the subject at hand? You hate me, I get that, so can we just discuss the issues?

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underwood

Feb-16-14 11:48 AM

Cap, you were clear enough, I was just expanding on your comment.

Scott36, the jobs you mention are paid for by taking money from the economy. A healthy, growing, economy can support them a lot easier than a weak economy like we have now and by all indications will have in the near future.

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Capricorn1

Feb-16-14 11:39 AM

Phil, I guess I should have been more clear. I wasn't suggesting government create jobs, I meant that government needs to do their part by relaxing restraints that contributed to manufacturing leaving in the first place. Just as unions need to work with these businesses to make moving back to this country cost effective. This doesn't mean working for nothing. It means working for a fair wage and benefits and not thinking you should be able to get rich for entry level or low skilled jobs.

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Scott36

Feb-16-14 11:39 AM

Cap, the only jobs government produces are government jobs and that takes ever more from the economy.-underwood

What about schools, bridges, and much more. They are built with government people??-Scott

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underwood

Feb-16-14 11:22 AM

Cap, the only jobs government produces are government jobs and that takes ever more from the economy. The economy won’t recover until the cost of government and it’s regulation of the economy is reversed.

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Yoxtheimer

Feb-16-14 10:46 AM

Aw Mimlogue you had to clean out a former tenants house who couldn't pay the exorbitant rent you were charging. Your giving them s h i t for having a video game system, what else are they suppose to do in this town?! Pay hundreds of dollars to go to a show at the Arts Center?!

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Capricorn1

Feb-16-14 10:38 AM

Phil, I agree. Until this country makes it more attractive for businesses and manufacturing to return to this country, service jobs are going to be the bulk of employment. And that will take government and unions working together.

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Capricorn1

Feb-16-14 10:35 AM

I would like to note that enigma did not chastise GoBB62 for their comment That after reading the title and first few lines that the letter must be from me or Tim.

You owe Kelaine an apology enigma and I owe you none. Your inaction here proved me right about you. -Enigma

This is beginning to sound like a schoolyard fight between all involved. Perhaps if we all try and be more respectful, no one would need to apologize. Just a thought.

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