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Williamsport will seek exceptions to Act 1 index

February 19, 2014

The Williamsport Area School Board will seek state Department of Education’s approval to raise taxes over the Act 1 index if needed....

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andy33

Feb-20-14 6:22 AM

bud wrote:" Looks like there are many who are afraid of educated people, they evidently think that all educated people are idiots and out to scr ew over the less ...."

That's a reach....BUT....in fact I would consider a healthy fear of someone who is educated beyond their intelligence and those that lack common sense...

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nobud74

Feb-19-14 9:00 PM

Oh, and the assertion that PSERS woes are the result of Tom Ridge are absurd. Ridge and Rendell presided over the state while the required deposits were not made. Required deposits were not made in all areas, not just conservative. Get your head out of your backside. This is a govt vs people problem, not a right vs left issue. It is that line of thinking that will only continue the problems we have. The pols like it when we fight amongst each other because it diverts the attention away from their ineptitude.

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nobud74

Feb-19-14 8:57 PM

Interesting mix of comments here. Looks like there are many who are afraid of educated people, they evidently think that all educated people are idiots and out to scr ew over the less fortunate. As for the assertion that because someone who was educated caused the collapse of some dirt you can find engineering errors everywhere. Is it good? No. But, it happens. The bottom line is the better we educate our children and the following generations the better off we will all be. The trick is to figure out how to do this in the most efficient way and how to get govt mandates out of the system.

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andy33

Feb-19-14 3:20 PM

Poor fiscal management and lack of concern for those that PAY the BILLS!....PSERS need constant funding....bad management!!!!

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andy33

Feb-19-14 3:18 PM

Sorry...the district should have been paying all along...irregardless of what the state did.

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weldnpipe

Feb-19-14 3:17 PM

Bassman, thats nothing. I contribute $9.25 per hour to my health & welfare fund. Doing a little math shows $9.25 X 40 hours = $370/week, X52 weeks = $19240/year. Now if I work overtime, the cotribution doubles to $18.50/hr. So from where I'm standing, $5304 looks like a bargin.

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andy33

Feb-19-14 3:16 PM

For instance...their 'holy grail' medical ins. costs $1000.00 per month...then the taxpayers are footing more than 50%....fair?

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BassMan

Feb-19-14 2:09 PM

Andy, The only reason I ask is I recently asked a WASD teacher to show me what they pay towards insurance and pension. WASD teachers are contributing $5304 a year for insurance. That is over $1000 more than I do in the private sector.

As far as pension this guy was contributing $3822 a year towards his pension. Now keep in mind the state and district paid nothing in for almost 10 years thanks to Gov. Ridge.

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andy33

Feb-19-14 1:30 PM

Bass....that's not my line of work...but...how about using the average of what is paid in the private sector...% or whatever..

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BassMan

Feb-19-14 1:03 PM

Andy, just curious what do you think is an appropriate amount that teachers should have to contribute to health insurance?

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Level5

Feb-19-14 12:50 PM

“The Williamsport Area School Board will seek state Department of Education's approval to raise taxes over the Act 1 index if needed.” They will seek it and they will get it. I don’t think I have ever seen any school district turned down. It is almost a rubber stamp approval anymore. Then they have the power to raise it to just about any percent they want. Act 1 doesn’t help the taxpayers at all. Please consider joining the fight against the school property tax being the funding source for our states public education. House Bill and Senate Bill 76 which were written with the help of concerned taxpayer groups are in the finance committee right now, and if passed, would eliminate the power that the school districts have to take your home from you. It will also implement spending controls that put the decisions in the hands of the taxpayers when a school district wants to spend beyond their budget. Visit the PTCC.US website to find out more. Their facebook page is also very goo

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MountainGirl

Feb-19-14 12:15 PM

It is beyond me how the district can close several school and sell them at auction to the highest bidder but still can not reduce expenses. Unbelievable! The taxpayer can no longer afford the high property taxes and yet that's all you can think about doing. Here's an idea, live within your means!! If you health care goes up, pay for it yourself just like the rest of us. Contribute to your own retirement just like the rest of us. Now why on earth would you ever consider that. NEWS FLASH: the taxpayers pockets are empty!!

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leaningright

Feb-19-14 11:13 AM

The taxpayers should revolt! Tell the WASD to cut, force them to do the right thing. Vote the current board out ! Educated idiots.

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andy33

Feb-19-14 10:08 AM

Hey bud...it WAS an educated professional that decided to dig away at the bank up to Hillside Ave....guess what happened!...It all collapsed and then more money was spent to fix that stupid..educated professionals decision...How much is enough?....the meeting is on March4 @ 6PM

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andy33

Feb-19-14 10:02 AM

Fredzz....I agree 1000%...this district thinks if you polish the turd enough, it will turn into a gem stone ....and look at the hero-in problem....throw money at that!..OH....this district refuses to have any program regarding this issue....bud...you think too much of educated professionals...IMHO!

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brownfox91

Feb-19-14 9:56 AM

It seems the way for local, state, & federal gov't. is to spend money, spend money & when money is low or gone raise the taxes. It is getting ridiculous for the people to always bail out the gov'ts selfish spending by paying more taxes. The sense that is not so common is to cut the gov'ts off & have them live like the rest of us, pay check to pay check. I don't have someone there to bail me out when I make a poor financial choice. The choices the gov'ts are making benefit the gov'ts & only the gov'ts, including the WASD. The restructuring choice has only done from bad to worse & continues to get worse. Dr. Kelley needed to have an on suite & change her carpet color 3 times before settling, really???? That benefits the students why & she is no longer in office. Start from the top & get rid of the unnecessary baggage. We all have a voice, so lets use it on March 4 @ 6pm to stand up and say no to the poor choices!!

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Fredzz

Feb-19-14 9:51 AM

nobud74

Localguy, the reason you pay for education is because it benefits all of us. Not Necessarily

You may not see the direct influence of education, but it is there. Not Necessarily

Education cuts down on crime, Not Necessarily

education leads to better jobs and more tax revenues from those jobs, Not Necessarily

education leads to creating jobs, Not Necessarily

education enables research which may cure the malady from which you suffer. Not Necessarily

As for how the revenues are raised, I believe a consumption tax is a better way to proceed.

Everyone pays that way, not just the property owner.

So we keep enlarging the MONEY Pool so Education can keep on keeping on being an over priced Sevice..!

Like Medical & Government...!

Tell me... If education was all the things you claim above.... Why is our Nation in the Mess that it is..!

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nobud74

Feb-19-14 8:35 AM

Localguy, the reason you pay for education is because it benefits all of us. You may not see the direct influence of education, but it is there. Education cuts down on crime, education leads to better jobs and more tax revenues from those jobs, education leads to creating jobs, education enables research which may cure the malady from which you suffer. As for how the revenues are raised, I believe a consumption tax is a better way to proceed. Everyone pays that way, not just the property owner.

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nobud74

Feb-19-14 8:32 AM

Andy, I have no problem paying good teachers for their services. I believe that to have good staff you must compensate them adequately. I do have a problem with everyone getting the same pay regardless of their production and abilities. I believe one way to save millions in tax revenues is to have a county school system. One head. One office. One management staff.

As for how well teachers live, yes, they don't do badly, but they are also educated professionals. Again, the problem becomes when they all get raises and pay based upon time put in, not abilities.

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andy33

Feb-19-14 8:24 AM

Next meeting....MARCH 4.....6PM

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andy33

Feb-19-14 8:12 AM

blue....it's a little late for that NOW!...the next meting NEEDS to be packed!

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thinblueline

Feb-19-14 8:09 AM

We need to vote these idiots out. They have no problem spending other peoples money. Just like the bum in the white house...

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andy33

Feb-19-14 8:02 AM

What they need to do....bud...and what they will do are far removed from one another. Will a taxpayer revolt have any effect?...This district fears nothing, including the people....as long as they legally can take more and more...they WILL!.....you wouldn't believe how good THEY live!

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localguy

Feb-19-14 7:30 AM

$30.59 for part time work? Wow, the average salary for part time work is less than $15hr. Hey school district, how many times can you hit this pinata(the tax payers)before it runs dry and there is no more candy left to get? Take a lesson and tighten your belts, as we all do; pay part of your health care or into your retirement. Maybe you school teachers and officials can earn your pay and work like we all do, all year long. Why do I pay for teachers when my kids are not being taught by you? Thats the sad part, we should only pay for schooling as long as our children are in that school district.

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nobud74

Feb-19-14 7:15 AM

Schools, and other govt entities need to do like business. They need to learn to do more with less. But, I believe the key to this is to get govt out of the education business entirely. There is no way some bureaucrat sitting in an office can provide a well rounded educational plan for everyone to follow. Let the local districts decide and then allow people to move from district to district as they see fit for the education of their children.

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