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The EPA stacks the deck on 'public listening'

February 22, 2014

Talk about stacking the deck: The Environmental Protection Agency has released information on its “Public Listening” sessions to hear opinions on its proposed new regulations for coal-fired power......

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nobud74

Feb-24-14 8:21 AM

I'm sorry Rick, it was not meant for you, but for the Omnipotent One--Shammy. Have a good day.

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rick424

Feb-23-14 3:19 PM

Turdman? Really? Sure you are not Bobbie? What I meant was we should have poured all our resources back then. Instead we invent things like the hummer.

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nobud74

Feb-23-14 12:07 PM

Turdman, the technology doesn't exist today to be green, what makes you think it was there in the 70's? Should we get away from fossil fuels, sure, but until we develop the tech to be clean and PROFITABLE (when it becomes profitable, the tech will arrive, just the nature of the beast) companies will develop the products we need to be green. As much as you and the rest of the libs hate businesses, they developed the means of communication we are currently using because there was a need for it and its profitable. Profit is what drives innovation, not rainbows and unicorns.

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MrShaman

Feb-23-14 7:24 AM

"Nobud, we put our eggs in the wrong basket after the 70s oil embargo." - rick424

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...Thanks to Re-Ron Reagan....

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See:

Prodigal Sun | Mother Jones

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rick424

Feb-22-14 10:04 PM

Nobud, we put our eggs in the wrong basket after the 70s oil embargo. That is all I am going to say. We made a mistake. We will pay for this down the road. Not our lifetime but many years from now. For the oil companies it is a big money making scheme, keep the investors happy. To bad for those who can't during their water or die from cancer because of the air they breath. They are just collateral damage so the rich can get richer.

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nobud74

Feb-22-14 9:41 PM

So, rick, you advocate a total ban on fossil fuels? By their very nature they are more dangerous to use, store, extract, transport, etc. This is the only way to be absolutely clean and green. But, if we ban fossil fuels how do we produce the green energy products so that we may get our energy production up to pre ban days? Do you understand what would happen to our economy, our way of life, our country? I don't know about you but I like heat and AC in my house, I like to get in my car and go places--like work--I like to be able to go to a movie and dinner. All these things go away in your utopian world. Nobody wants to pollute, but you have to get to green when it is viable, and right now it isn't. It can't begin to produce the energy our country uses. And this doesn't even begin to address the dead birds, the toxic waste from producing batteries for "green" cars and the eyesores of wind and solar farms.

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rick424

Feb-22-14 8:47 PM

Sorry nobud but your statement cleary states economy is more important than the environment. There have been several disasters recently because companies were lax. The people that are hurt are people who are powerless to fend for themselves. That is why we need government to protect us. Big business will not. We can not keep going down this road to destruction in the name of the almighty dollar.

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nobud74

Feb-22-14 8:19 PM

When you have fact finding, meetings and polls in areas that are not coal producers and users (even though lots of electricity is added to the grid from coal plants) then you skew the results. No, rick, we don't want to destroy the environment, but we do understand that we need fossil fuels, no matter how many windmills you want. Oh, and those windmills, they are produced from materials smelted using coal. Until we have a truly viable, cheap version of "green" energy we are stuck with fossil fuels. Why not use what we have and stop importing from countries who use the money to work against us and fund groups that want to kill us? Sounds more sensible to me.

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rick424

Feb-22-14 4:05 PM

So it is my assumption, nobud, that as long as there are jobs and a growing economy to h e l l with environment. There is a surprise.

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Scott36

Feb-22-14 12:42 PM

The government is not interested in fact finding, it is interested in validation of their position, nothing else.-Nobud74

They polled Americans...Americans who have an interest in our environment. The EPA deals with our environment.-Scott

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nobud74

Feb-22-14 11:37 AM

As usual, the libs don't get it and can't read. The point of the editorial was that there were NO hearings held anywhere near areas where the coal industry provides jobs and is a driver of the economy. The government is not interested in fact finding, it is interested in validation of their position, nothing else.

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rick424

Feb-22-14 9:42 AM

Apparently the same in Virginia and West Virginia. But we don't need the EPA.

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sideliner

Feb-22-14 9:08 AM

Look what is going on in NC with coal...

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MrShaman

Feb-22-14 5:31 AM

"Stacking the deck against the American people has become standard procedure under President Barack Obama."

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C'mon...c'mon...we need to give a "LITTLE" credit to the Koch Brothers!!!!

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See:

Bombshell: Koch-Funded Study Finds 'Global Warming Is Real', 'On The High End' And 'Essentially All' Due To Carbon Pollution | ThinkProgress

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sideliner

Feb-22-14 4:54 AM

Stacking the deck against the American people? Really? Were they foreigners that spoke in all these American cities?

Holding hearings strictly in Coal Country stacks the deck as well.

Pushing for clean energy is a good thing. Jobs must not be the only consideration when deciding energy generation technology.

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