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Medicare Advantage latest in series of Obamacare deceptions

March 10, 2014

About 16 million older Americans rely on Medicare Advantage policies to supplement their government health insurance....

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MrShaman

Mar-12-14 6:10 AM

"Obama himself has lost confidence in this legislation...." - Capricorn1

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Yeah...you might-as-well throw mind-reading into your (recently-developed) "psychic"-skills, but...I'm guessing...your track-record (for accuracy) isn't about to improve, any time soon.

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MrShaman

Mar-12-14 6:05 AM

"Shaman, no need for a schedule. Obama has been extremely predictable.

It smacks of arrogance and is nothing short of deceptive." - Capricorn1

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You forgot "uppity"?

You have no (more) idea, than anyone-else, what the future holds...or, when (whatever) events might happen.

I don't know when, it was, "conservatives" developed their masochistic-tendencies...continually "predicting" events that never seem to happen...only to end-up looking MORE paranoid/clueless, but...it's satisfying, for you, somehow???

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Capricorn1

Mar-11-14 4:09 PM

And you failed to answer my question, in your opinion, why all the delays? And please don't use the line that he has to wait until Americans get educated on the law. Very weak. Obama himself has lost confidence in this legislation and instead of doing the right thing and fixing it, we'll just keep delaying it in hopes they can fool enough Americans into forgetting who passed it to begin with.

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Capricorn1

Mar-11-14 4:04 PM

Shaman, no need for a schedule. Obama has been extremely predictable. I just find it humorous that if Obama finds the ACA so beneficial for everyone, why all the delays? You're a smart man Shaman and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the repercussions of the very things he is delaying, is going to hurt millions more Americans when they lose their policies. Not a very good way to go into an election, so let's delay it until afterwards. It smacks of arrogance and is nothing short of deceptive.

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MrShaman

Mar-11-14 9:43 AM

"Shaman, of course it's temporary, until after the elections." - Capricorn1

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...And, you've seen this schedule...where??...or, is this another o' those "Everybody knows"/FAUX Noise factoids????

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Capricorn1

Mar-11-14 8:32 AM

Shaman, of course it's temporary, until after the elections. Obama's policies are dictated by upcoming elections. That is glaringly obvious with Obamacare and all the delays/extensions he has arbitrarily handed out. If he is so confident in the success of his policies, why all the delays??

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MrShaman

Mar-11-14 8:18 AM

"US administration pulls back on Medicare drug benefit proposals -Reuters" - Capricorn1

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"The Obama administration on Monday told members of Congress that it will not finalize controversial changes to the Medicare Part D prescription drug benefits program "AT THIS TIME," following weeks of growing opposition to the proposals from a broad coalition of interests."

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Everything's temporary.

I'm sure the for-profit insurance-companies & Big Pharmas appreciate your support, but...much like every other road-block, posted (for Obama)...once the general-public is better educated, concerning BU$HCO's hu$tle (like we're doing, here), Obama should come-out, victorious, as usual.

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Capricorn1

Mar-11-14 7:00 AM

"Within two months of signing the Medicare Modernization Act (MMA) into law, President Bush quietly informed Congress that the true cost of the program would be $550 billion, not $395 billion, over the next decade. When Medicare actuary Richard Foster sought to present the true price tag to Congress in late 2003, then agency chief Thomas Scully threatened to fire him. By the time the program was launched in 2006, the estimated 10 year price tag for the Medicare prescription plan had increased to $720 billion."

See:

Boehner, Cantor and McConnell raised debt ceiling by $800 billion to pay for health care costs -Shaman

"The $70 billion Part D program launched a decade ago under former President George W. Bush. Over 10 years, its costs of $346 billion have been 45 percent lower than initially projected."

See: US administration pulls back on Medicare drug benefit proposals -Reuters

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Capricorn1

Mar-11-14 6:49 AM

Those warnings were coming, LONG-before Barack Obama was (even) CONSIDERED as a Presidential-candidate, DURING the time the Bush Admin was attempting to "shove" Medicare D "down everyone's throat".-Shaman

It appears Obama is going to continue to "shove it down our throats."

"The Obama administration, in an abrupt about-face, said on Monday it would drop proposed changes to Medicare drug coverage that met wide opposition on grounds they would harm health benefits for the elderly and disabled."

See: US administration pulls back on Medicare drug benefit proposals -Reuters

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spike2

Mar-10-14 6:48 PM

Nobody, you live in political opium land. In other words, pipe dream. Who is your viable presidential candidate. Wingnuts don't win an election.

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MrShaman

Mar-10-14 9:05 AM

"Wow...the S-G fighting for more gubmint spending!" - DeanWormer

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...While they "cut-corners", in THEIR budget, by allowing their "editorials" to be written by....interns???

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MrShaman

Mar-10-14 8:59 AM

"How many more will have to be revealed before the program is repealed?".

When the Senate, and the House, are both GOP controlled, and there's a presidency at stake simultaneously. Thus, it all depends on the results of this years 2014 upcoming midterm elections." - Nobody

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It's allllllll about a "balanced-budget"!!!

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"Within two months of signing the Medicare Modernization Act (MMA) into law, President Bush quietly informed Congress that the true cost of the program would be $550 billion, not $395 billion, over the next decade. When Medicare actuary Richard Foster sought to present the true price tag to Congress in late 2003, then agency chief Thomas Scully threatened to fire him. By the time the program was launched in 2006, the estimated 10 year price tag for the Medicare prescription plan had increased to $720 billion."

See:

Boehner, Cantor and McConnell raised debt ceiling by $800 billion to pay for health care costs

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MrShaman

Mar-10-14 8:16 AM

"How many more will have to be revealed before the program is repealed?". - Nobody

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...Especially when you consider all the glitches that were so prevalent!!!!

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See:

Remember the Medicare-D Rollout Glitches? Neither does GOP

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Nobody

Mar-10-14 6:54 AM

How many more will have to be revealed before the program is repealed?".

When the Senate, and the House, are both GOP controlled, and there's a presidency at stake simultaneously. Thus, it all depends on the results of this years 2014 upcoming midterm elections.

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MrShaman

Mar-10-14 6:12 AM

"Wow...the S-G fighting for more gubmint spending! Isn't this exactly what the Tea Party (and S-G) want? Reduced gubmint spending, right?" - DeanWormer

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MUCH like George Jr. suggested (AFTER he'd "pulled the pin" on Iraq)...THEN wasn't the time to discuss "why"...THIS conversation, about Medicare D (AS well), is LOOOOONG-overdue!!!!!!

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MrShaman

Mar-10-14 6:07 AM

"Now we know the critics were right. Obamacare will cost senior citizens dearly. They can pay more to maintain existing health insurance or settle for reduced benefits."

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...OR, Medicare will be able to NEGOTIATE prices (with the Big Pharmas), just LIKE...

"Medicare Part D drug prices are substantially higher than the prices obtained by the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA), which negotiates prices on behalf of consumers. For all of the top 20 drugs prescribed to seniors, the lowest price charged by any Part D plan was higher than the lowest price secured by the VA. Yet Congress refused to let Medicare negotiate directly with the drug companies, as the VA does." - Sacramento Gray Panthers

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MrShaman

Mar-10-14 5:57 AM

"President Barack Obama and his fellow liberals have accused those of us sounding the alarm about Medicare Advantage of lying."

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Those warnings were coming, LONG-before Barack Obama was (even) CONSIDERED as a Presidential-candidate, DURING the time the Bush Admin was attempting to "shove" Medicare D "down everyone's throat".

If the for-profit insurance-companies & Big Pharmas CAN'T get-by...without such socialistic-moves (as over-the-top) $ub$idie$...they're probably in the wrong business!!

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"Consumers are getting hurt and taxpayers fleeced, while insurance companies and drug manufacturers are raking in money faster than they can count it."

See:

Sacramento Gray Panthers Prescription Drug Plan Medicare Part D

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DeanWormer

Mar-10-14 5:27 AM

Wow...the S-G fighting for more gubmint spending! Isn't this exactly what the Tea Party (and S-G) want? Reduced gubmint spending, right?

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