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Rights devalued

March 28, 2014

The rights we have under the Constitution are of little value if government can punish us for exercising them and the limits placed on government by the Constitution have little value if government......

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CMReeder

Mar-29-14 11:53 AM

Again what rights PHIL! Name the rights that are being infringed.

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johnnyad3

Mar-29-14 10:35 AM

I can agree with that Phil. I hope you can agree that there are times when the people want a union and there is interference. The company runs anti union campaigns and threaten peoples' jobs if they vote for a union.

To me, that's an example of when rights are devalued.

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streetmachine

Mar-29-14 4:06 AM

lets quit talking and get motivated we have rights we need to start protecting them

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underwood

Mar-28-14 6:54 PM

Side, the only restriction that should apply to an individual’s rights is they can’t infringe upon another’s rights. That’s self-evident because everyone has the same rights as everyone else. Government’s job is to protect our rights, not infringe upon them.

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underwood

Mar-28-14 6:48 PM

Johnny, all we really know about the VW vote is the employees voted against union representation; everything else is more than likely propaganda. There are many companies that aren’t unionized because the employees don’t want one.

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JohnZook

Mar-28-14 5:31 PM

Too many people see too many things in our Constitution. There is a long list of things supposedly seen in the it and it's the politicians and judges fault that these "protections" are found there. Where, oh where, is a woman's right to kill her unborn baby in the Constitution? And what would it be put there for anyway when it was written. Just like anything else, when the politicians want votes, they will sell their souls for the party.

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mikekerstetter

Mar-28-14 4:20 PM

johnnyad3-"So you don't think there was any interference when Sen. Bob Corker, a Tennessee Republican and former Chattanooga mayor, suggested that a "no" vote would lead a Volkswagen expansion in the state with a new sport-utility vehicle line?"

That whole situation was bizarre. The Management was pulling for the union so it could set up a 'works council'. I am a union supporter and I would have questioned why the company wanted a union. I think there were a lot of factors that played into it, including that the workers felt they were being paid and treated fairly.

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mikekerstetter

Mar-28-14 4:16 PM

enigma-"Don't you feel sorry for those who are so blinded by party loyalty that they don't see the violations (Chuck and Johnny)?"

I hate to break it to ya, enigma, but it isn't just the left who are blinded by party loyalty.

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johnnyad3

Mar-28-14 2:46 PM

"Johnny, the union simply lost the election at the VW plant."

So you don't think there was any interference when Sen. Bob Corker, a Tennessee Republican and former Chattanooga mayor, suggested that a "no" vote would lead a Volkswagen expansion in the state with a new sport-utility vehicle line?

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eriklatranyi

Mar-28-14 2:43 PM

Under what constitutional authority does the federal government have the authority to regulate firearms, tobacco or explosives?

None.

That power does not belong to the federal government, it belongs to the states to regulate those things as they see fit.

Therefore, everything not specifically assigned to the federal government in the constitution is unconstitutional...from the start of this nation.

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eriklatranyi

Mar-28-14 2:39 PM

I lost the right to buy an insurance plan that covers what I want in it.

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sideliner

Mar-28-14 2:10 PM

OK, Phil, let's say I choose to pursue happiness using he roin. Or better yet, I am in serious pain and I have the right to be pain free, yet I have no access to *********or phentanyl patches.

Are those the kinds of "rights" we're talking about?

And Darlin, how did the "current office holder" ... "continued to rule against the Constitution?" You say he said it " 'holds him back,' from the things that he wants to do."

Could you please cite that quote and be specific about what ruling was against the Constitution? And what is it he really wants to do?

There are a lot of vague statements and innuendo out here today...

I'm still wondering how we've been "punished."

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underwood

Mar-28-14 1:15 PM

Johnny, the union simply lost the election at the VW plant.

Mercury2, government is government no matter who is POTUS.

Eric, the point of the letter is the Constitution doesn’t protect our rights; it only defines government and our rights. We have to protect them ourselves by how we vote. And you’re smart enough to understand that victimless crimes are an infringement upon our right to pursue happiness. Nobody has to engage in an activity they don’t approve of just because it isn’t illegal.

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ericwilliamsport

Mar-28-14 12:17 PM

Yes, author, your letter was equivalent to saying "Drugs are bad." Well no **** sherlock. What specifically are you talking about? If you want to educate people to your view, or debate an issue... lets hear it.

Even your poker game and prostitution example, I'm not sure what you are trying to say. These are both against the law, yes? The spirit of gambling regulation is not to prevent a penny ante game, I'm sure you are smart enough to recognize that.

Consenting adults with money exchanging hands... you mean prostitution? You support prostitution?

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MECURY2

Mar-28-14 12:11 PM

Phil,You personally,give me a list of "Constitutional rights" have you lost in your life, (I'm guessing you are only talking about since President Obama has been in office so that should make it easy for you?

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johnnyad3

Mar-28-14 11:58 AM

"Gambling isn’t spelled out as a Constitutionally protected right, but the pursuit of happiness is."

True Phil

What do you think of how things played out at the VW plant in TN?

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underwood

Mar-28-14 11:56 AM

Johnny, I’m on record as supporting worker's right to unionize; even a closed shop. Labor laws and regulations favoring unions over business owners are unquestionably an infringement upon the business owner’s right to the use and disposal of his or her property.

Gambling isn’t spelled out as a Constitutionally protected right, but the pursuit of happiness is.

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johnnyad3

Mar-28-14 11:31 AM

Was penny ante poker rights spelled out in the Constitution? Most people on here talk about their Constitutional rights being eroded, but if that's what you have, thanks for answering my question.

It's not that I disagree Phil, I just like to hear an example when the statement of losing rights is stated.

For example, people in this area are anti-union. Even though it is a Constitutionally protected right, they want to do away with unions.

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johnnyad3

Mar-28-14 11:25 AM

enigma-Don't patronize. My timeline is clear. I never said you didn't post. I said you never answered my question. Because you didn't want to. Very childish actually. Until you answer my question (and when didn't I answer your question?), you will continue to be considered a liar as far as I'm concerned.

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underwood

Mar-28-14 11:07 AM

If I were to get together with a few friends for a penny ante poker game, we could all be arrested. How about a couple of consenting adults wanting to spend the night together where money changes hands? There are many more, but I’m trying to keep it simple so everyone can understand some examples of government violating our rights.

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MrShaman

Mar-28-14 11:04 AM

"Sham, are you asking me to find a you-tube video to back up my assertion?" - underwood

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ANY kind of documented/recorded info would suffice...as-opposed-to what "they say".

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MrShaman

Mar-28-14 10:59 AM

"All politicians claim they’ll abide by the Constitution when running for office. That’s why I say we must vote offenders out of office when they run for re-election.

There are laws and regulations that would punish us for exercising most, if not all, of our Constitutional rights if you’re objective enough to see them." - underwood

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Shouldn't you (ALSO) have an obligation to REMEMBER "all"-o'-those "violations"...you know...for future-reference purposes...to avoid sounding like your whining (for no specific-reason), again???

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MrShaman

Mar-28-14 10:54 AM

"Don't you feel sorry for those who are so blinded by party loyalty that they don't see the violations (Chuck and Johnny)? You can bet that they screamed load and long when Bush passed the Patriot Act, but when Obama extended it and added to it, that was fine." - enigma

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Yeah...you're wrong (as usual), on that one.

It's got to have something-to-do with your being "blinded" by Clear Channel/FAUX Noise "loyalty".

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MrShaman

Mar-28-14 10:50 AM

"The Constitution can't protect us if we don't protect it by voting against those who violate it."

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"That's not good enough. We also need to vote for people who support the Constitution and are committed to returning us to it..." - enigma

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That (just) MIGHT be the "missing piece" to the "puzzle"!!

You "conservatives" DO (seem to) have a tendency to wander-around...aimlessly.

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MrShaman

Mar-28-14 10:46 AM

"The rights we have under the Constitution are of little value if government can punish us for exercising them"

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"What rights are you exercising that you are being punished for?" - johnnyad3

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Stand, back. A full-cover helmet might be an additional-consideration.

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