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A blow to democracy

April 13, 2014

With their decision on May 3 in McCutcheon v. Federal Election Commission, the Supreme Court has struck a terrible blow to American democracy, possibly a fatal one....

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JohnHilfirty

Apr-18-14 1:44 AM

Mercury:

Thanks for the heads up, and you are dead on correct!

I've been using this site since about 2007 except the past year and a half. Nowadays I avoid it pretty much, because since President Obama was re-elected the Obama Derangement Syndrome has really taken over the neocons and I can live without the resulting stomach acid level.

USABorn is a woman in her late 70's or early 80's who lives in the woods somewhere nearby. I believe her TV only receives Faux Noise, and she believes everything she reads in any republican sent email is a fact. She then goes into relay mode and repeats the message (usually lies) to anyone she can, often exaggerating it. She's a bona fide right wing kook, and in my opinion a closet racist. She won't consider any proven facts, her mind is always made up already.

I'm reachable as starrblaster and I use google mail. I try to answer all email, so feel free to drop me a line.

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MECURY2

Apr-16-14 11:42 AM

JohnHilfirty: USABorn is a full-blown bigot but, he won't admit it. I have fact checked this from his/her past comments about 'OUR' President and I'm at the point of not repling to most of his/her comments! You would have a better chance of having an intelligent conversation with a group of kindergarden kids!

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JohnHilfirty

Apr-16-14 2:52 AM

cont.

..... a statement that she had investigated the 81 alleged "dead voters" back in 2012 and found that more than 50 of the 81 absentee ballots and found that those ballots had been legally submitted by mail, by voters who then died suddenly before election day.

I do feel sorry for you though, it must really be terribly embarrassing to be wrong as often as you are!

You may be able to better control your Obama Derangement Syndrome illness by learning how to do some basic research before making dumb comments here!

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JohnHilfirty

Apr-16-14 2:42 AM

USABORN:

I see you are still repeating false claims as though true, as you have always done!

"The North Carolina Board of Elections discovered THOUSANDS of residents who voted in both North Carolina and another state in the 2012 elections."

FALSE! THE N.C. BOARD OF ELECTIONS WERE NOT INVOLVED!

That LIE was made by "The National Review" (Dick Morris) which is well known to be one of the most RIGHT-WING outfits in the world. Read how they arrived at that finding. The 35,570 people they refer to were never found to have VOTED in any other state, only that people with the same names were registered in other states.

Politifact calls it FALSE.

FactCheck calls it A LIE!

Many states do not purge voters until years after they have moved out of state (i.e. to N.C.).

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"The investigation also found 81 deceased voters that had voter activity since they died."

ALSO FALSE!

Indeed, the Republican Executive Director of the N.C. Voting Commission issued >

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USABorn

Apr-15-14 10:56 PM

Mercury you can disagree all you want, but for the past year, the billion dollar drop in federal funds has been a subject of discussion here. Now, when the dems get caught lying, all of a sudden it's crap?

As for Dumbama, get off your lazy backside and use google or bing and you can hear his little speech on voting from a few days ago.

Spare us your liberal lies and bullcrap!

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MECURY2

Apr-14-14 10:13 PM

USABorn: Where do you get this crap? Do you ever fact check your information? President Obama could be 100% right but, you seem to always come up with crap to prove he is 99.9% wrong!"Crap" is the key word in this comment.

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USABorn

Apr-14-14 9:58 PM

JohnHilfirty - 5:40 PM

"That's not advertising, it's just plain LIEING to the voters!

Oh, you mean like all the democrat candidates that are saying in their campaigns how Corbett cut $1 billion from education? You know, the $1 billion the feds quit sending?

Yep, that's just plain lying!

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USABorn

Apr-14-14 9:50 PM

gavinf56 - 6:58 AM

"No matter how much money an individual donates to a political candidate, come election time they still can only vote just once."

Apparently not!

Obama Decries “Bogus” Voter Fraud Complaints After 35,570 Double Votes Counted in N.C..

The North Carolina Board of Elections discovered THOUSANDS of residents who voted in both North Carolina and another state in the 2012 elections.

The investigation also found 81 deceased voters that had voter activity since they died.

That is one state out of 50 (or 57 if you are Dumbama). No wonder he won the election. And, according to my in-laws in N.C., they were democrat voters!!!!

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JohnHilfirty

Apr-14-14 5:40 PM

What's the importance of advertising?

I heard a person discussing their choice of Corbett for re-election in a supermarket two days ago. Since it was a public conversation, I asked the person "Why?"

"Look at all the jobs he's created." came the reply. I asked what the source of that info was. "I watch the TV ads." was the reply.

Corbett is running new ads on TV & radio bragging about his "creating jobs as he had promised."

The truth:

When Corbett took office, PA was 7th in 'private sector' job creation nationwide.

During his 3 year tenure, PA has dropped to 47th nationwide in 'private sector' job creation.

He fails to mention the loss during that period of over 40,000 (mostly local) government jobs because of Corbett's cuts in state funding.

That's not advertising, it's just plain LIEING to the voters!

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ericwilliamsport

Apr-14-14 12:06 PM

Sure they can only vote once. Voting once for the candidates you hear about. One vote per citizen isn't the problem, its campaign finance and finance reform.

You will never hear from the best suited candidate for the job that appeals to all citizens and taxpayers because the Democratic and Republican parties will never give you that candidate.

It is not even so much about finding a great candidate that appeals to more voters outside their party, it is the fact that Clear Channel, Comcast/NBCU, Unions (conveniently non-profit), **** even big tobacco... They pay for the people you will see advertisement for because it's who they want, not who you'd like to see.

The Nextel/Sprint commercial where the firefighters ran congress made common sense "Alot of paper to tell us we need clean water. Do we need clean water guys? (All) Aye. Easiest job I ever had.".

Instead we get the choice between the lesser of two evils, in bed with the least of our enemies.

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MECURY2

Apr-14-14 10:40 AM

gravinf56 post 4/13-6:50pm: I forgot to ask, why do candidates have commericals about themselves? I have a guess,it's because they can feed you more "bulls***"! So, what's your spin on this waste of time and MONEY?

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Steelman

Apr-14-14 8:16 AM

The number of ads a person sees should not sway their vote. They should vote based on what they believe the candidate can accomplish, but this would require work on the voter behalf and who wants to do that.

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spike2

Apr-14-14 7:39 AM

gavin, bobbae - advertising, events, pre-election ground work is how we reach people(of all parties). You are patently unable to understand marketing, which is what a candidacy is. You can convince yourself money doesn't matter but don't try to blow smoke.... tell Pepsi and Coke advertising against your competition or for your own product doesn't matter. What do you think candidates are?

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MECURY2

Apr-13-14 7:01 PM

gravinf56:Keep believing that it may make sense someday. There is an old saying,"money talks and suckers walk".HELLO!

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MECURY2

Apr-13-14 6:59 PM

ToTexasfromPA: You are right neither party are 100% for the American voter but, I guess it better for large companies to donate large amounts of money to candidates than to take that money and buy healthcare for their employees,makes sense to me?! One more thing,if you think the insurance companies are********rainbows over "Obamacare"aka:"ACA" you are dead wrong. Now they have to give you what you pay for,no more high premiums for "junk policies"!It's really funny how much the TEA PARTY values money more than "healthcare". I think there is a word for that and it's called 'GREED'!

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gavinf56

Apr-13-14 6:50 PM

Money and/or commercials don't vote, people vote. It's really that simple.

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MECURY2

Apr-13-14 6:43 PM

gavinf56: I guess you missed the football game I was talking about in my comment.Let try this, if you have tons of money you could buy 100 commericals a day but, if you don't have tons of money maybe you can but 10. Is it sinking in yet? I have more examples but,I'm not wasting my time again forgeting what this newspaper is all about.

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MECURY2

Apr-13-14 6:35 PM

You know what is really funny if the TEA PARTY takes over the "GREAT COUNTRY" we live in, all you that vote for them will be riding the same bus over the cliff as the rest of us!! I hope I get a rear seat! I guess this is the only way you'll figure out that the Tea Party is full of "wackos" but, another funny thing is,you can't take your vote back so hold on tight!

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gavinf56

Apr-13-14 6:29 PM

Whether it's the 57% big donors or the 47% common Joe's, they each only get 1 vote. It's really pretty simple.

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MECURY2

Apr-13-14 6:26 PM

What was the need to "bump" up the amount in the first place? And if you wander why the "Roberts" Supreme Court and if you think he is not attached to the TEA PARTY then you're blowing smoke up your butt,was the deciding vote! You "Right Wing" nuts keep complaining about wasting money except when the TEA PARTY is "BUYING" the country!! Fifty-seven % are the big donors for the GOP aka: Tea Party,ie: KOCH BROS.etc. The LEFT gets 43% and most of that comes from the "common joe",you know the ones that 'actually work' hard to make ends meet.It's like a football game,one side has 11 players but, the other side has 6 players,who do you think will win? There is no middle class,it's now called the "wealth poor".'Rich,wealth poor and poor is the new norm and of course "it's Obama's fault",right?

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ToTEXASfromPA

Apr-13-14 9:34 AM

Sounds like the problem is the politicians (in both parties) that give back financial reward in exchange for keeping themselves in political power.

The health insurance companies are the ones making all the money from ObamaCare. I wonder how much money they poured into election campaigns?

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underwood

Apr-13-14 9:17 AM

Wealth isn’t a zero sum game; it’s created by a healthy economy. If some are able to enrich themselves at the expense of others, it’s by gaming the collectivist system Dr. Vosk so unwaveringly supports. We’re suffering at the bottom and middle classes because government policies take wealth from the economy and create uncertainty that stymies the economic growth needed for them to prosper and grow.

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Ritty77

Apr-13-14 8:39 AM

"Since there is just so much wealth and power to go around, the only way they [the rich] can accumulate more is by taking it away from the rest of us."

That's total nonsense.

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bobbae2

Apr-13-14 7:34 AM

"No matter how much money an individual donates to a political candidate, come election time they still can only vote just once."

and liberals whine about that also

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gavinf56

Apr-13-14 6:58 AM

No matter how much money an individual donates to a political candidate, come election time they still can only vote just once.

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