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The Obama doctrine

June 11, 2014

President Obama was elected because he promised more entitlement money to people who live off of taxpayer dollars....

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Scott36

Jun-14-14 12:30 PM

Personally, I think that he did it.-ToTEXASfromPA

That is your opinion, & you are entitled to it. I personally think that this is what you want to believe, with full blown self righteousness. Could it be that a high profile liberal Democratic couple survived a marital crisis, & it not fitting your narrative of liberals? One most will never have to endure with all of the sordid details exposed for the entire world to see? All of these details not rubbed, but relentlessly grinded into their faces by some, & they still held fast to their commitment to each other?? Close enough? Have a nice day-Scott

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Scott36

Jun-14-14 12:10 PM

It takes a lot of commitment and support from other family and friends to hang in there.-ToTEXASfromPA

..and she,& her husband did. From your posts, it seems, you would give them more(or at least some) credit if they broke up...it even seems that you would prefer that, in order to prove "your" understanding of their marriage. JMHO- And sadly, it does not really surprise me. I may be wrong, & to be truthfully honest, I hope I am. Have a Great Weekend!!-Scott

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-14-14 7:30 AM

"So if your wife strayed from your marriage would you work on it or sign divorce papers?" --LauriH

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Answer - I guess the answer is that it depends on what the circumstances are. Yes, there would be an attempt to reconcile, restore, and work on it. But if there were repeated wanderings like Bill's, then I would want to be with someone committed to me.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-14-14 7:29 AM

Cont>>

It furthers her career because Bill does have a certain amount of charm and political clout and attracts people/money that benefits her. Also she can be perceived as being the oppressed while displaying a toughness and hanging in there.

Then there is the track record of Bill. He consistently denies relationships. But finally with overwhelming evidence admits to Jennifer and Monica. Several other women have drug their own reputations though the dirt admitting Bill did something but he continues to deny. Personally, I think that he did it. Do we only blame the forays on Bill or do we attribute some of it to Hillary.

Maybe you can tell me what you think she has done to work on her marriage, other than not file papers?

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-14-14 7:28 AM

"You preach family and values and belief in God, then you pretty much condem a woman because she was strong enough to work through it with her husband, tell me what do you think God would say?" --LauriH

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Answer - I think your conclusion of "work it through" doesn't align with mine. First off, I will admit that I don't know if they went to a marriage counselor, Christian counselor, or other path to reconcile the marriage. I saw comments like Bill hasn't seen her [Monica] anymore to indicate HRC thinks he has improved. I don't know if they sleep in the same bed/room. I don't know if they spend time together, except for public appearances, fund raiser stuff you see on news or the vacations to the Hamptons. I think that Hillary stayed with Bill because of several reasons: 1. Chelsea and 2. it would further Hillary's career.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-14-14 7:27 AM

"Here is a situation between a married coulple, a situation that affects over half of married couples what is so wrong with her sticking it out and working on her marriage?" --LauriH

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Answer - sticking it out and staying together is a good thing but I sincerely question if she was working on her marriage. When you take a job like Secretary of State and spend a lot of time traveling around the world and away from your husband, I don't see that as growing the marriage. Many people do make sacrifices for their country or family but many times it can lead to divorce. It takes a lot of commitment and support from other family and friends to hang in there. I saw the position (SoS) as filling her ambition and definitely not working on the marriage.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-14-14 6:32 AM

LauriH,

On one side you claim innocence and say you are on the high road. And then you post something like this "I have another question for you I may have asked you this in the past, do you get many nosebleeds? I just thought with you flying above us all you would have quite a few." Here you answered your question with a judgemental answer.

Which is it? (No answer required.)

I have posted on this site for a couple of years and I used to answer some of the salvo of questions (like you posed) but when I gave answers back, there came another salvo of questions or unrelated observations (without responding to my answers). So I got tired of it.

Tell you what. Maybe we can both stay to effective questions when addressing each other specifically. We can use exclamation points "!" or multiple "????" when trying to make a point instead of asking for a legitimate answer.

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LauriH

Jun-13-14 9:28 PM

Texas what road would that be? The high road? I usually do. I will just know now not to initiate a convo with you,because you will just select to ignore it because it is somehow beneath you, or maybe the questions are to hard, I don't know. You talk out of both sides of your mouth and that is a hypocrite in my opinion. So sorry I wasted your time with 3 rational questions. I will not make that mistake again.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-13-14 8:51 PM

So are you going to take that road!

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LauriH

Jun-13-14 2:05 PM

Texas I counted 3 seperate questions, thats alot for you? Ok, no I thought they were legitimate questions. No, we are not there in their day to day life but you read a book or hear bits and pieces of an interview and you make a judgement call. I have another question for you I may have asked you this in the past, do you get many nosebleeds? I just thought with you flying above us all you would have quite a few. You preach the bible but in reality do you follow those words? Can't prove it by me. You are what I call a Hippa(hypocrite)-Christian its ok I understand you have a so-called "image" to keep. Preach away Texas preach away.

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MECURY2

Jun-13-14 1:03 PM

I think the train has left the tracks,this letter is referred to as,"The Obama Doctrine" and everyone is concerned about Bill and Hillary's relationship?! If I want to listen or watch a "soap opera" I'll turn on my tv!I guess America doesn't have any problems going on,so we talk about a relationship!!? "WAKE UP,FOLKS"!

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MECURY2

Jun-13-14 12:51 PM

ToTEXASfromPA: post:6/12-11:16pm-- The lady writes a book explaining everything personally and politically about her life,and you "clowns" want to 'cut it apart'! Smooth move but,it's understandable coming from the "Right" who are never wrong or ignorant! The only thing I get from the book,she's just trying to be honest,and that doesn't exist on the "Right"!"Spin those wheels"!

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MECURY2

Jun-13-14 12:41 PM

Ofutm2: post:6/12:-10:53pm-- Their names are spelled different? Or,one is going to be President in 2016 and the other is not? Neither wear the same shoe size? What is the point of your comment, I don't believe it has one!

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MECURY2

Jun-13-14 12:33 PM

ToTEXASfromPA: post;6/12-9:57pm-- "Running scared and I love it"!!!If we can't get to her,'politically'will go after her 'personel' life!I see you 'dug up'MONICA'which only means you're at "the bottom of the barrel"and tell me what 'sexual' relationship did Hillary have with her? Remember, it's Hillary that MIGHT run for President,not Bill,you're 'spinning you wheels'!

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MECURY2

Jun-13-14 12:18 PM

ToTEXASfromPA:Post:6/12-9:41pm- Just because Hillary admits to making the wrong decision doesn't mean she's "incompetent"! Have you ever made a wrong decision,well I guess you're 'incompetent' then we shouldn't take your comments 'seriously,right? Boy,You guys/gals are really afraid of Hillary,it appears that way anyhow!

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MECURY2

Jun-13-14 12:03 PM

leaningright: 6/12:3:17pm--You could have saved that comment,we already know you hate the President and Hillary. Yea, If it makes you feel good,I'm happy!

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MECURY2

Jun-13-14 11:58 AM

bobbae2:post:2:11pm -6/12-- What happened in 2007 and especially,2008? Do you remember what the 'rate' was in 1999,President Clinton's last year in office? Sounds like you're trying to "cook the books"!

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MECURY2

Jun-13-14 11:51 AM

bobbae2:post:6/12-2:14pm--Please put that paint can away and you got 5 people to 'agree' to that comment,it's getting scary!If that was suppose to be funny,you just got 'voted off the show'! No, not American Idol but,Amercian Idiot!

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-13-14 6:59 AM

symbiotic relationship) but I don't see them as a role model for other married couples to follow.

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ToTEXASfromPA

Jun-13-14 6:58 AM

"You preach family and values and belief in God, then you pretty much condem a woman because she was strong enough to work through it with her husband, tell me what do you think God would say?" --LauriH

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I guess I didn't realize that you were interested in a legitimate answer. It appeared you were rapid firing questions for an overall effect so I ignored it.

Yes God would want them to stay together and be in a loving, caring, growing relationship. Together they would become one and help each other develop their relationship with God.

We aren't there day in and day out to see the details of how Bill and Hillary accomplish that. And when you read some of their biographic information and articles on them, you see a range of potential conclusions as to how committed they are. I see two people that are more committed to their careers, pleasures, position, fame, politics, and trappings of life than growing their relationships with each other (that is why I said symbio

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Scott36

Jun-13-14 1:25 AM

You totally evaded my question, but thats ok, I expected nothing more.-LauriH

NOW, your learning the "ways of the right"!!-LOL!!

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Scott36

Jun-13-14 1:22 AM

The difference between Lauri and Hillary?-Sybil

They, to the best of my knowledge, both stick by their husbands...for better, or worse..(one just happens to be former 1st. Lady)

Better question to ponder--The difference between Sybil, & a pudgy drug addict on the radio from 12 to 3?...or ARE you one and the same?

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Scott36

Jun-13-14 1:12 AM

I am in no way condonng cheating but I give her credit for choosing to work it out.-LauriH

AMEN!! But watch out Lauri, you're risking having people who really know how to "use" a Bible beat you over the head with it. That, to be completely serious, is unfortunately how I see it most of the time.(and I accept the guilt that accompanies my feelings) Have a Great, Safe, Happy Day!!-Scott

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Scott36

Jun-13-14 1:01 AM

Do over. Is she telling us she was incompetent then or incompetent now? So easy to say years later with no consequences.-ToTexas..

incompetent?...and "W"!?! I know, I know, I'm out of bounds bringing him up. Have a nice day!-Scott

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Scott36

Jun-13-14 12:56 AM

And Hillary did not have the courage or fortitude to dump the scumbag, Why?-leaningright

Because he was not dying of cancer in the hospital, you know, the perfect time to tell him he is being dumped for some other person? Because there was not another anonymous same sex person in an airport restroom stall to tap toes with?? OR, could it be that she took her marriage vows seriously??-Scott

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