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Religious freedom

June 22, 2014

I know that just as surely as we have constitutional safeguards to keep and bear arms that we also have ones to allow freedom of religion....

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CMReeder

Jun-24-14 7:49 AM

Do you think we should be forced to accept discrimination?

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CMReeder

Jun-24-14 7:19 AM

Barbers are trained to cut hair, all types of hair.

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CMReeder

Jun-24-14 7:18 AM

Well then do you think it is okay to force a black barber to cut hair for blacks only because he is black?

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Scott36

Jun-23-14 6:30 PM

Scott, do you believe a black barber should be forced to cut white people’s hair when his experience and clientele have always been black?-underwood

I am not of the belief that anyone should be forced to do anything.(obeying laws, paying taxes, etc., of course) OK, Your turn, Do you think a mall, e.g.-should be allowed to prohibit blacks? How about separate bathrooms? Separate fountains?-Have a Nice day!!-Scott

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CMReeder

Jun-23-14 10:27 AM

Sorry that should read, 'Let's talk more hair and stylists.' I'm having problems with the laptop key board.

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CMReeder

Jun-23-14 10:25 AM

Here is a good question, does 'freedom of religion' mean you have a protected right to discriminate at any time? Does one's beliefs void public laws?

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CMReeder

Jun-23-14 10:22 AM

Lt's talk more about air and stylists.

Weaves, extentions, hairpieces, wigs, relaxers. Are these treatments ethnic or are they for anyone?

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CMReeder

Jun-23-14 10:18 AM

"Scott, do you believe a black barber should be forced to cut white people’s hair when his experience and clientele have always been black?"

So are you saying that barbers are trained according to race?

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CMReeder

Jun-23-14 10:16 AM

"I’ll take the stand that a privately owned business has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason."

That is until you are the one who is refused service then it becomes another matter all together.

In essence what was stated was that the public sector must treat everyone equally but the private sector can discriminate against anyone.

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0futm2

Jun-23-14 12:14 AM

"Larui, I’ve long believed that people do that because they believe they elevate themselves by tearing the other person down."

How do you tear someone down that supports rapists, liars, thieves and haters of America?

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underwood

Jun-22-14 7:17 PM

“Rick you are absolutly right when you speak about the constant degrading comments coming from certain posters.”

Larui, I’ve long believed that people do that because they believe they elevate themselves by tearing the other person down. It’s immature and in reality does just the opposite. If you let them drag you in, you’re lowering yourself to their level.

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underwood

Jun-22-14 7:10 PM

Scott, do you believe a black barber should be forced to cut white people’s hair when his experience and clientele have always been black?

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underwood

Jun-22-14 7:02 PM

Scott, I have no problem with enforcing sanitary conditions for food handling businesses. It's a given that food should be prepared and handled properly and to handle or prepare it otherwise can be considered fraud and infringes upon the rights of customers by putting their health at risk. No one has the right to do that.

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Scott36

Jun-22-14 5:41 PM

...but it doesn’t sound right to me either.-underwood

That was my impression also. It was in the paper(I believe this one)about a year ago. How about State Forest land. If my understanding is correct, about 100, or so yrs. ago the lumber companies took off the lumber. It then had a pile of land it did not wish to pay taxes on, so it then became Pa property, for nothing, or next to nothing. The people of Pa. took on the maintenance of the land, not to mention lost tax revenues. Now it seems that after all of this time(in which they got out of paying prop. taxes at the expense of Pennsylvanians)they get to reap profits on property Pa. residents maintained--& it seems they have superior rights on the land. Somehow it does not seem right.-Scott

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Scott36

Jun-22-14 5:29 PM

Scott, it doesn’t have to be spelled out as a separate right, it’s included in the right to use and disposal of one’s property; or that’s what I’ve always believed.-underwood

To a point I agree, but not everything is black/white. Where does it start/end? how about a restaurant for instance-I believe that if you want to serve food, you should be held to certain sanitary levels.(as is currently done) Total, unrestricted "property rights", you could prepare food in a pig sty. I'm sure you can think of many other examples. How about serving alcohol? Smoking? Refusing to serve blacks, Hispanics, Chinese?? What if it is a Franchise, where you, as an owner are the only one in the area? Seems to me that there is quite a few things to consider for what at first glance is seemingly a simple question.-JMO-Scott

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underwood

Jun-22-14 1:33 PM

Rick, in my rush to get caught up I missed your question; I wasn’t ignoring you. I hope I answered the question in subsequent posts, I should’ve added your name to them.

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underwood

Jun-22-14 1:27 PM

Scott, I agree that eminent domain is used for purposes beyond what was intended. I’m not familiar with the case you mentioned, but it doesn’t sound right to me either.

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underwood

Jun-22-14 1:14 PM

Scott, it doesn’t have to be spelled out as a separate right, it’s included in the right to use and disposal of one’s property; or that’s what I’ve always believed.

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Scott36

Jun-22-14 12:48 PM

Scott, mineral rights can be leased or sold like any other property. Did you have something more in mind?-underwood

My time is also limited, seemingly for the same reason as yours. Actually I do have something in mind 1-Who pays the property tax, yet it is my understanding from reading that those who do not pay property tax seem to have more legal rights-at least in Pa. 2- I read a while back about some "eminent domain" property that was used for a RR, which is no longer there--I believe for years. Landowners apparently were paying the taxes on the land, using it for years(tracks were torn up), yet when the "Boom" occurred, the "Eminent domain" came back into play--Sound fair in your judgment? Not so much in mine. I thought that eminent domain meant for schools, highways, RR's, etc.-Scott

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Scott36

Jun-22-14 12:37 PM

I’ll take the stand that a privately owned business has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.-underwood

I tend to agree-No shoes, no shirt, no service. However, he still has not stated where it is a spelled out Right, as he stated.-Scott

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Scott36

Jun-22-14 12:33 PM

I left myself out because I have been frozen out by Phil and his followers.-CMReeder

I know, some do not like to answer questions, only ask them.--Especially if they are tougher questions, they have not heard answers for--Seems they are afraid of saying the "wrong" thing. No guts-JMHO-Have a Super day!!-Scott

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underwood

Jun-22-14 12:10 PM

Scott, mineral rights can be leased or sold like any other property. Did you have something more in mind?

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underwood

Jun-22-14 12:03 PM

Scott, computer time is limited this morning due to other things going on, but I’ll try and keep up.

We agree on the need for probable cause and a warrant.

As for the Constitution being the law of the land and defining government, the problem is that government is the one that has to enforce it.

Government control of the economy and the market is a violation of the Constitution. This doesn’t mean government shouldn’t pass and enforce laws that protect us from environmental, fraud and other infringements upon our rights

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underwood

Jun-22-14 11:38 AM

Scott, my question about your belief in property rights was in response enigma’s comment about a business not wanting to serve someone because of their religious beliefs. I’ll take the stand that a privately owned business has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

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CMReeder

Jun-22-14 11:23 AM

Scott and I'm surprised at you. Phil is saying in his condescending way that all of you on the left only have narrative that is why you don't have to bother with any proof. I left myself out because I have been frozen out by Phil and his followers.

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