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Men of honor

July 26, 2014

What did Presidents Hoover, Truman, and Eisenhower have in common? Back during the great depression, Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to......

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USABorn

Jul-28-14 11:13 AM

CMReeder - 8:01 AM

"Eisenhower had a federal program that brought Mexican companies to work on government projects. They looked the other way knowing that they brought people from Mexico illegally with them."

Ike got rid of illegals through "Operation Wet back."

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gavinf56

Jul-27-14 12:44 PM

Sorry, last post is on the wrong letter.

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gavinf56

Jul-27-14 12:43 PM

Illiteracy is not the problem; being unable/unwilling to learn is.

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gavinf56

Jul-27-14 12:41 PM

"There was undeniable proof that Nixon ORDERED the break in..." - CMReeder

"In the Articles of Impeachment against Nixon it states he knew and approved and COVER-UP wrong doings..." - CMReeder

See the difference in your own statements Chuck? Somehow I doubt you will.

Oh, and I never said anything about the IRS, but one could say that he was a good student of FDR and JFK.

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CMReeder

Jul-27-14 11:43 AM

You don't let the truth get in your way Gavin. In the Articles of Impeachment against Nixon it states he knew and approved and cover-up wrong doings of his administration. He did use the IRS along with other federal agencies to stop the investigation which is also cited in the articles.

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CMReeder

Jul-27-14 9:01 AM

I am not the only who has changed.

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gavinf56

Jul-26-14 9:02 PM

Chuck wasn't always that way. Prior to the 2010 elections, he usually struck a more moderate tone.

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Nobody

Jul-26-14 7:17 PM

gavin: "There was undeniable proof that Nixon ordered the break in and used the IRS as his own personal attack machine." - CMReeder You never let the truth get in the way of your narrative, do you?

From what much of what I've read from Chuck on this blog, the answer is a resounding NO he doesn't let the truth get in the way.

But, he does let his unbelievable and unrelenting devotion to socialism and wealth redistribution get in the way.

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gavinf56

Jul-26-14 7:07 PM

"There was undeniable proof that Nixon ordered the break in and used the IRS as his own personal attack machine." - CMReeder

You never let the truth get in the way of your narrative, do you? Nixon was impeached for trying to cover up the break in (along with abuse of power and contempt of Congress). Nixon was never tied to directly ordering the break ins.

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MonkeyWrench

Jul-26-14 5:13 PM

The Cornyn Bill? According to the Senate Republican Bill, the Cornyn Bill, the so-called HUMANE Bill), "unaccompanied Central American children seeking asylum because of organized crime violence and sex trafficking would be processed the same way Mexican children now are – that is, with a quick screening interview by a BORDER PATROL AGENT, and, in many cases, an immediate trip back home.”

I agree with Bishop Elizondo of Seattle who said. “The prospect of the United States sending vulnerable children back into the hands of violent criminals in their countries raises troubling questions about our moral character.”

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Capricorn1

Jul-26-14 4:53 PM

Tim, the proposed change would still require a hearing. It would just have to be done within seven days and custody would be maintained until the hearing. What makes more sense? This plan or the current plan that has resulted in hundreds of thousands of backlogs, the majority failing to appear and a process that can drag on for years before a hearing is held?

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MonkeyWrench

Jul-26-14 4:30 PM

"as long as their rights are protected."

"...in a way that continues to respect the basic due process rights of these individuals, then we would be happy with that."

Thanks for clarifying.

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Capricorn1

Jul-26-14 3:24 PM

"Josh Earnest said the White House would support changes that speed up the removal of border-crossers as long as their rights are protected. But the White House has not provided details on how that could work."

"Should Congress pass a new law? Should Congress pass a law that replaces the 2008 law? Should Congress pass a piece of legislation that would modify the enforcement or implementation of the 2008 law? What I have said is that is Congress' job to determine," Earnest said. "If Congress chooses a path along those lines that results in the secretary of Homeland Security getting the kind of authority he needs to exercise his own discretion to enforce the law more efficiently and do that in a way that continues to respect the basic due process rights of these individuals, then we would be happy with that." -AP

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Capricorn1

Jul-26-14 3:10 PM

The White House’s current plan is to consider a process for screening youths IN THEIR OWN HOME COUNTRY to decide whether they are eligible to be called “refugees” under U. S. law. -Tim

Tim, maybe so but they also recognize that the current law needs reformed. The Administration even praised the two TX Senators for introducing the bill that I stated earlier and said they are open to the idea. Regardless what is done in their home country, proper legislation still needs to be in place to handle those that make it to the border and the current legislation is not working.

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MonkeyWrench

Jul-26-14 2:10 PM

The WH proposal would not be a “substitute for providing full asylum rights for kids who have arrived in the United States.”

I don't think that is what "Republican reformists" have in mind.

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MonkeyWrench

Jul-26-14 2:09 PM

"Democrats have said they are against reforming the 2008 law that both Republicans and the President want reformed. How else would you like me to state that fact?"

Basically as untrue because the WH and republicans have entirely different "reforms" in mind right now.

The White House’s current plan is to consider a process for screening youths IN THEIR OWN HOME COUNTRY to decide whether they are eligible to be called “refugees” under U. S. law.

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Capricorn1

Jul-26-14 1:02 PM

Gee I say Congress and you turn and point at Democrats. You criticize me. Congress is failing to act. -Chuck

Chuck I rightly pointed to Democrats because they have said they are against reforming the 2008 law that both Republicans and the President want reformed. How else would you like me to state that fact?

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CMReeder

Jul-26-14 1:00 PM

If Obama is as guilty as people assume he is then he should be impeach. I agree with Tim. The thing is you have to prove he is guilty of the crimes. There was undeniable proof that Nixon ordered the break in and used the IRS as his own personal attack machine.

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CMReeder

Jul-26-14 12:56 PM

"If this country had a properly secured border and immigration laws were strictly enforced, we wouldn't have 12 million illegal immigrants in this country."

Sure about that?

Undocumented immigrants can no longer cross on their own as they once did. They now heavily rely on a second party to get them across mainly the drug cartels. Border patrol agents are looking the other way because they are paid off by the drug cartels. We have essentially made illegal immigration very profitable for the drug cartels and others. Those trying to get in are paying a very steep price, a price they are willing to pay for a chance at a better life. The supposed 12 million illegal immigrants in the US were here before the fence and the increase of border agents. They all did not come here across our southern border. We have illegal immigrants from almost every place in the world.

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CMReeder

Jul-26-14 12:43 PM

Gee I say Congress and you turn and point at Democrats. You criticize me. Congress is failing to act.

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Capricorn1

Jul-26-14 11:28 AM

Tim, I totally agree regarding the cartels and gangs and the drugs coming across that border, which only supports the claim that the southern border needs to be secured. The war on drugs is a joke when you leave the pipeline open resulting in the violence for power that you see south of the border. Imagine if we could properly secure that border and cut off much of the drug traffic that comes across. I just find it humorous that the government feels it has to spy on it's own citizens in order to help keep this country secure, and at the same time we are allowing hundreds of thousands of people to come across our border unchecked. IMO border security and the security of this nation is the responsibility of the Federal Government and they are failing miserably and they have for a long time.

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MonkeyWrench

Jul-26-14 11:26 AM

As you will be happy to hear...gotta go.

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MonkeyWrench

Jul-26-14 11:23 AM

"I would hate to see Obama impeached and the reins handed to Biden."

I didn't want to see the reins handed over to Vice President Ford either, but if the 'high crimes and misdemeanors" shoe fits, President Obama should be impeached the way President Nixon. The law should not be held in abeyance because of your or my preferences for a successor.

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MonkeyWrench

Jul-26-14 11:16 AM

' Obama's Executive Order in 2012, and continued talk of amnesty created the perfect storm which we are seeing at our southern border."

In my opinion, the continued demand for drugs among United States citizens, the transfer of so much of the drug cartel to Central America from Mexico because of our partially successful efforts at making it harder to do business there, the "gangsterization" of Central America and the corruption of the governments there have caused the permeation of gang and cartel violence that have driven these refugees across a no man's land to seek safety. Those who argue to send them back in contradiction to our existing law will share in the guilt for the inevitable consequeces.

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Capricorn1

Jul-26-14 11:12 AM

Tim, like I said yesterday, I would hate to see Obama impeached and the reins handed to Biden, and you're right, enforce the law until it's reformed. Add them to the hundreds of thousands currently awaiting hearings.

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