*****yeah, If someones gonna give me a NEW car or none at all, I'll have to go ahead & take it. Beats the crap out of a used one!
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How many people utilize the ice rink at the Penn Street Armory and was it even flooded for skating this year?
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Fix the streets before you waste money on entertainment. You don't go to the movies with your bill money, do you? Another politician money waste!
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I see a lot of people talking about conventions as a way for the arena to make money. How many conventions are you going to get when you have an airport that only see two or three flights a day? You may pull in a few small gun shows or craft fairs, but true "conventions" are not going to be lining up to get in the new building. An ECHL team would be a huge stretch as well. Charlotte and Las Vegas "only" have ECHL teams. If attendance is high enough, or you have owners that want a tax write off, I guess anything is possible. Despite growing up in Williamsport, I've been active in the hockey industry for the last decade (not just playing rec hockey or knowing a couple people). I'm just trying to provide a little reality check.
An ice rink is extremely expensive to maintain, especially in summer months. You will need to keep the ice booked with figure skating, public ice session, youth hockey, adult hockey and even school teams. Right now in Harrisburg, renting the ice is $250 an hour or more and most of the rinks barely scrape by. A pro team would be nice, but that is a whole other set of issues. Even is you are able to get that, the ice would almost certainly have to come out for the summer. At that point, you would still need to cram in as many other events as you can, to try and cover the costs.
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I know many people associate and ice arena with a hockey team, but we don't necessarily need to have a hockey team to have an ice arena. There are many different things we could use this for. One, ice skating for all ages as well as ice skating birthday parties and classes. Two, teaching kids of all ages how to play hockey. Three, we can host competitive cheerleading competitions. We already have a competitive squad in williamsport, the Twisters. We also could host conventions, for example youth convention and many more. These are just a few things we could use an ice arena for. I believe it would benefit our town and surrounding areas greatly. It will also give the youth something to do and help keep them off the streets. As well as providing more jobs.
An indoor arena would have many benefits, concerts, conventions, and other various forms of entertainment, in addition to ice related programs. I too would like to see another attempt at a team, I think the outlaws did not take the time to learn about what works in central PA, it was a "jersey program", they could have learn from the cutters. For example their last game was scheduled at 1PM, most of our families had to work on this holiday and schools were in session.
It was difficult to take a family to the games with the cold weather. Families should be a target audience and an indoor arena would allow that. I do think that it could work if it was indoors. There was a reason why this was the first team to ever play an entire outdoor season-.it's too cold and unpredictable. I don't think Hockey was the failure, it was a number of factors that stacked the cards against the team before it came to Wmspt. Lets learn from the mistakes that were made and move forward with a
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This is a terrible question because it links an indoor ice arena to a pro-hockey franchise as if the two can't exist apart. Obviously a pro-hockey franchise can't exist without an arena (I think the Outlaws just proved that), but most ice arena's don't have a pro-hockey team playing in them. Let's get the arena here first, then, when more people are into skating and hockey, think about the team sometime in the future. I support an indoor ice arena in Williamsport with or without a team.
I think when people say ice rink people instantly think of hockey. There are a lot of people in the area that like to ice skate. I think an ice arena built in the city could be successful. You have public skate, concerts, conventions, going the extra mile you could have junior hockey and scholastic hockey and if the arena is done right sometime in the future we could possibly have another pro hockey team. There are a lot of possibilities with a rink done right. if you look at the overall rink at bowman field there was support for the team and there was people there for public skate. Inside vs. outside could make a big difference.
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I personally would love to see another try at hockey in Williamsport. What I think they should of done was wait another year for the arena to be built and try for an ECHL team. I think that if we got a Pittsburgh affiliate, a lot of people would come to games, not just from Williamsport (Wilkes Barre, State College, etc.).
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Sounds like Randy already did more research into the league than the city did!
An arena yes....franchise no
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There are 5 NHL afiliated professional hockey teams within roughly a 125 mile radius of Williamsport. 3 of those are AHL (Wilkes Barre, Binghamton, & Hershey) teams and the other 2 are ECHL based in Reading & Elmira. The fact is there are not any teams with the ability to draw attendance or a facility large enough to even entice a team to come to Williamsport. Rooney and Kirnan were blatantly untruthful in saying they would bring an NHL affiliate to town in the form of the Outlaws. That whole league is troubled and "fly-by-night". A few FHL teams relocated during the course of this season, one even more than once. Its almost like the whole league is a scam. The owners make their money and disappear. On another note I believe the area would greatly benefit culturally from having an indoor ice arena for recreational skating, youth & possibly scholastic hockey. The City of Sunbury operates a rink for open skates as well as a youth league. Bucknell U. practices and
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The only way it would work is if the team was associated with an NHL team...not like the FHL where the guys have no chance of ever being called up except to the almost equally embarrasing ECHL.
There are alot of Penguin and Flyer fans in the area!
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