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February 28, 2013

Wouldn't it be nice to have the non-violent offenders perform some much-needed community services, not just around the Lycoming County Courthouse but let's say start at Brandon Park and walk down......

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WKnapp

Mar-02-13 3:37 PM

eric88

Feb-28-13 12:58 PM

Reeder your blindly ignorant on the subject.

Nothing new here, Eric. Pick a subject, and more than likely Reeder is blindly ignorant on it.

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CMReeder

Mar-02-13 12:58 AM

Your arguments are the ones that are false.

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eric88

Mar-01-13 1:29 PM

Reeder, its ok to change the subject when all of your arguments are proven false. Obviously your a beginner at the point counterpoint debate. Better luck next time!

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CMReeder

Mar-01-13 8:07 AM

Eric that is not what was advocated in the letter you dolt. They want free labor.

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Ritty77

Feb-28-13 4:57 PM

During my stay at Club Fed, I made 40 cents per hour, plus a 50% bonus most months. My pay was about 60 dollars per month. UNICOR workers made hundreds per month. There was a waiting list to get into UNICOR.

All inmates are required to "work," with the default jobs being kitchen and grounds-keeping. A good percentage are happy to work to earn a little cash and pass the time.

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eric88

Feb-28-13 12:58 PM

Reeder your blindly ignorant on the subject.

How do you explain our country paying inmates $.30/hour for landfill work etc.?(far below the beloved liberal minimum wage) It has happened, is happening and if you pull your head out of the sand, try some basic research you might just learn something!

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eric88

Feb-28-13 12:52 PM

Reeder --Sorry Josh conservatives call it socialism when government hires people to work or put people to work for the government.

And most would classify it as theft receiving money for nothing--aka welfare. But to your defence they do put in an honest days work once a year every November electing those who promise to keep the dollars flowing.

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CMReeder

Feb-28-13 12:52 PM

Not dodging the question Eric, RNC has no talking points to find.

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CMReeder

Feb-28-13 12:51 PM

Josh they have already been convicted and jailed. It is not jail and then community service because they were sent to jail. Community service has been handed down as punishment for lesser crimes. As a matter of fact it still is. Some just pay a fine. What was being advocated was those already in jailed should be doing this, that is chained gangs. They are in jail for a reason a very good reason not as source for cheap/free labor. I treated you like you treated me, get over it bully.

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eric88

Feb-28-13 12:48 PM

Reeder--Eric you just explained it in your post you conservative dolt.

Nice dodging of the question! Researching DNC talking points on the subject? Not gonna find the answer there..

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CMReeder

Feb-28-13 12:45 PM

Sorry Josh conservatives call it socialism when government hires people to work or put people to work for the government.

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Josh84

Feb-28-13 12:42 PM

CMReeder Feb-28-13 12:05 PM****"Government putting people to work how socialist of you."

Government keeping people from needing work via redistribution of wealth is much more socialist.

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CMReeder

Feb-28-13 12:38 PM

Eric you just explained it in your post you conservative dolt.

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eric88

Feb-28-13 12:37 PM

Liberal dolt---They are criminals who have been found guilty of crimes against society not your source of free labor.

Try educating yourself sometime? This already happens in our prison system.

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eric88

Feb-28-13 12:35 PM

Liberal dolt---Government putting people to work how socialist of you.

how is the exchange of money for labor socialist? Please explain oh wise one!

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Josh84

Feb-28-13 12:35 PM

@chuck, Perhaps between name calling, and the rest of the grade school activities you like to participate in, you could take the time to educate yourself. I would suggest you first look at the 13th Amendment to the constitution(be sure to wear your sunglasses, I know how looking at the Constitution burns your eyes and gives you general feelings of discomfort). While your at it, look into the positive aspects of penal labour or other "work programs" within the prison system and learn how they can alleviate unrest throughout the prison populous.

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CMReeder

Feb-28-13 12:05 PM

"I like the welfare trash for trash pickup idea! Why not have them put in 10 hours before they get their" theft by deception" rewards donated to the access card?"

Government putting people to work how socialist of you.

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CMReeder

Feb-28-13 12:03 PM

How stupid are you Josh? They are criminals who have been found guilty of crimes against society not your source of free labor.

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enigma

Feb-28-13 11:32 AM

Is John calling Penn College students non-violent offenders, or is this just a very poorly written letter? I don't disagree with his point, but to go from talking about criminals to students without a transistion is to equate the two. Having said that, I am all for getting useful work out of both criminals and teaching whenever possible, but it's not always as simple as John makes it out to be.

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eric88

Feb-28-13 10:46 AM

I like the welfare trash for trash pickup idea! Why not have them put in 10 hours before they get their" theft by deception" rewards donated to the access card?

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Josh84

Feb-28-13 10:13 AM

@Chuck, Oh we're paying for it already, its called taxes. Maybe we just want to get a little back for our money. Feeding and housing someone with no return on their behalf other than to keep them away from society.

Go ahead and paint it as extreme by using your silly Chinese statement. Par the course for you.

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CMReeder

Feb-28-13 9:25 AM

How Chinese of you! China does this with their dissidents. Now the right wants to get public projects done by not paying for it. Maybe the right/conservatives should go out and just do it themselves that way they don't force others to do their dirty work and they don't have to pay for it at all.

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jeff33

Feb-28-13 8:23 AM

I use to see the Muncy State Prison out with work crews on all the State Highways, just like down south have not seem then out in years, but you see PennDot out picking up trash probably something to do with the union, inmates putting union workers out of work!

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MrShaman

Feb-28-13 8:03 AM

"Wouldn't it be nice to have the non-violent offenders perform some much-needed community services, not just around the Lycoming County Courthouse but let's say start at Brandon Park and walk down Hepburn Street picking up trash along the way to Little League Boulevard over to either Market Street or Pine Street back up to Brandon Park." - John Nile Updegraff

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If that was possible, I'd be a bigger fan o' cleaning-up what reflects-upon Williamsport, moreso....ALL ALONG 180!!!!!

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Josh84

Feb-28-13 7:22 AM

CarlHiller Feb-28-13 6:05 AM****"Add to that welfare recipients. There would be much that could be done by utilizing the 2 groups. You could teach employable skills to both sets."

Stop making so much darn sense.

Friends and I have often thought of the many possibilities of a "Workfare" program.

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