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Catch-22

May 7, 2013

Let's be honest and separate the illegal acts from the legal acts when it comes to the Dr. Gosnell trial. As far as the anti-choice people are concerned, all abortion is wrong and therefore illegal....

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WKnapp

May-09-13 9:50 PM

Their support would be based upon the life form's willingness to conform to leftist ideology, to bow down at the altar of anger and illogical and emotional knee jerks. They don't need to actually do or accomplish anything, just CARING about it fixes every problem.

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eriklatranyi

May-08-13 8:22 PM

If you believe that life begins at conception, then abortion SHOULD be illegal.

After all, if a meteor crashed to Earth, and it contained life forms, would liberals support sterilizing it?

What if Superman was sent here as an embryo instead of a baby? Would liberals defend his life?

Or would their support be based on his future potential?

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FormerEastEnder

May-08-13 8:33 AM

"all abortion is wrong and therefore illegal...."

Uh.. if something is wrong, it's illegal?? in who's eyes? Geeze louise..how can you make such a statement.. that is so wrong.. therefore, illegal...

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Ritty77

May-07-13 6:18 PM

"Chuck you are pathetic. I feel sorry for your. May be mean to say, but maybe your mother should have made a choice."

It is mean to say, and wrong. I wish people wouldn't go there. Just sayin'.

Still luv ya, Darlin.

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gavinf56

May-07-13 5:57 PM

"Poor women, mostly black and immigrant, sought out Dr. Gosnell, often waiting late into a pregnancy for an abortion because it takes time for someone who is poor to raise the funds for an abortion and it did not deter them in their quest to end the pregnancy." - CMReeder

This is pure fallacy on Chucks part. The later in the pregnancy the abortion occurs, the higher the cost for the abortion.

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gavinf56

May-07-13 5:56 PM

I guess for clarification purposes, I am pro-choice (no problem at all with the first trimester), but strongly disagree with later term abortions other than in instances of health.

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gavinf56

May-07-13 5:52 PM

Chuck has been pretty consistent in that he thinks life begins once the "fetus" exits the birth canal. Although I am pro-choice, I strongly discreet with his position.

The one reason those on the left are having such a hard time with the Gonsell case, is because the only difference between him being charged with murder and performing a legal abortion is that the child is outside the birth canal. It makes for a very blurred "moral" line.

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eriklatranyi

May-07-13 5:52 PM

We all know that it really is the liberal movement that hates blacks and celebrates the abortion of black babies.

Why do you think they are so eager to lock-up the hispanic vote?

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Ritty77

May-07-13 5:52 PM

"As far as the anti-choice people are concerned, all abortion is wrong and therefore illegal."

I'm not anti-choice, I just think the choice should be made sooner. That is, the choice to engage in an activity that might result in a pregnancy. When "pro-choice" is argued, this step is always skipped.

As to abortion's legality, it is a legal procedure and the law should be followed. Kermit performed both legal and illegal abortions. Pro-life argues against both, but he's only on trial for the latter.

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enigma

May-07-13 5:35 PM

Poor Chuck; All of his liberal friends who secretly agree with him, have hung him out to dry. They're afraid to come out and say they agree with him on this, because they know it will look bad. The connection they don't make is that it looks bad because it is bad. Chuck may not be very smart, but at least he's honest about what he thinks.

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Premier

May-07-13 5:35 PM

Easy on Chuck guys, 2 more LTE's and he gets that set of steak knives from Chris Mathews.

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Ritty77

May-07-13 5:31 PM

"So the question as to when life begins from these people is pointless because they will only accept one answer, at conception." —Charles M. Reeder

If not then, when? Why accept some arbitrary, politically or emotionally inspired "beginning" when there is a clear, logical, and scientific starting point to every human life?

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eriklatranyi

May-07-13 5:11 PM

In my LTE last week about the Gosnell case, I asked "when does life begin".

Mr. Reeder was one of the few liberals with the courage to respond.

He said that it is up to the mother to decide when life begins.

Therefore, in his worldview, Dr. Gosnell is innocent.

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gavinf56

May-07-13 2:57 PM

I don't know Vince. I just know he doesn't post comment's on his letters and the reason why.

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VinceKnauff

May-07-13 2:38 PM

Several months ago someone made a comment about the number of posts made by Chuck on one of his letters. Ever since then Chuck does not comment on his own letters.

Gavin - how come Chuck doesn't have that same reaction to all the flack he gets when voicing his opinions on topics from other people? Seems like the constant rejection he gets from us here would render the same result.

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nobud74

May-07-13 1:58 PM

We all know what the speed limit is and if we don't know what it is exactly on a particular stretch of road, we have a good guess. I am not a physician or have knowledge of how abortions are performed, but I would guess there are approved methods, which do not include removing a live fetus and killing it. I believe that this is what has everyone so up in arms. Funny how the same result inside the mother's body doesn't elicit the same outrage. But, those are the rules by which we live.

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rmiller

May-07-13 1:33 PM

nobud,

Good beautiful afternoon to you! Perhaps we both misunderstood each other - we are generally on the same side of the fence. :) I'm weary of the "blame game" in our society where everyone/everything other than ourselves are to blame for what choices we make. I understand your point with respect to the laws being enforced. But, as this presents itself, laws are broken continually. I get caught speeding...is it my fault or is it the state's fault because the speed limit sign should be posted twice as often to ensure I read it every so many feet?

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gavinf56

May-07-13 1:07 PM

Several months ago someone made a comment about the number of posts made by Chuck on one of his letters. Ever since then Chuck does not comment on his own letters.

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nobud74

May-07-13 1:01 PM

Good beautiful afternoon rmiller! I think you misunderstand me. I do not agree with what he did, but I would suspect there are approved methods for this LEGAL procedure (whether or not we agree with the procedure, it is legal) and I would also suspect that the Dr. did not follow those approved methods and in that respect the state and feds are just as culpable for the deaths of live born children. (If it turns out he is convicted of said crimes.)

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Tgrammiex4

May-07-13 12:49 PM

Shammy's not even defending him on this one....

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VinceKnauff

May-07-13 12:34 PM

Chuck doesn't post or respond to any of his letters. No matter what you may think he has been pretty consistent on that.

Yes Gavin, the consistent part is that he knows he can't stand behind his Liberal BS and uses that excuse to give himself a reason to stay quiet.

Too bad he doesn't have that attitude other times.

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cheyenne

May-07-13 11:59 AM

they are not going to have "their" money going to them.- Chuck.

Interesting that you used quotation marks around "their". Tell us Chuck, in your socialist mind, whose money is it? The government's? Society's?

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philunderwood

May-07-13 11:42 AM

Do you suppose it’s because most of what he writes is un-supportable with a logical post or response?

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gavinf56

May-07-13 10:37 AM

Chuck doesn't post or respond to any of his letters. No matter what you may think he has been pretty consistent on that.

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twinder

May-07-13 10:12 AM

That is all I am going to say on my letter, just posting the omission. CMReeder

You've already said too much.

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